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Why is BP's Macondo blowout so disastrous & Beyond Patch-up.

Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:10 AM EDT
environment, disaster, gulf-of-mexico, bp-oil-spill, relief-well, top-cap
By BK Lim
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(25 July 2010, hydrocomgeo@gmail.com).

There has been so much information (or mis-information) on the disaster it is difficult to separate the facts from the myths, let alone decide who is or are to be held responsible for the oil spill disaster. There is a need for a working geological model to integrate all the scattered pieces of information and evidence together, so that law makers can zoom into areas where data had been lacking (or withheld) and the wrongs be corrected in order for the industry to move forward. The fact that so many wells (even in deeper waters) had been drilled successfully in the past in the same Gulf region suggests that there may be more “hidden” factors that caused this blowout to be so disastrous.

The geological model presented here is based on facts derived from past blowout investigations that had been equally puzzling. It provides a fresh perspective into the blowout investigation which until now had been overly focused on the drilling itself. If the well blowout was already a disaster in waiting, there is absolutely nothing the drilling crew could do to prevent the blowout, short of abandoning the well prior to reaching the reservoir. The fact that this geological model had been independently generalized from data and information available on the public domain means that there is room for more detailed infill and ample opportunities for BP’s technical experts to prove the model wrong. On the other hand, if subsequent revelations (from yet to be published data or information) substantiate or improve on the accuracy of the model, then this geological modeling effort, is heading the right direction in providing a more sound basis for corrective measures towards making the oil industry safer from such future disasters.

1 Key components of the qualitative geological model.
It is reasonable to assume that BP was targeting a structural reservoir in the vicinity of a salt dome. In BP's bathymetric chart, both Macondo’s wells (A & B) were located on an escarpment discernible on satellite images of the seafloor obtained from Google Earth. Texaco Rigel well which is about 2.43 km from BP Macondo A, is about 1 km away from the edge of the escarpment. Thus, while a salt dome is selected for the model, any vertical geological structure like an intrusive dyke or a vertically inclined fault zone (lateral fault), would essentially produce the same effects. The present qualitative geological model can be converted to a quantitative one when sufficient quantitative data is available. For now this qualitative model is sufficient for us to understand how the blowout occurred, why it occurred, what should have been done to remedy a bad situation from getting worse and how it could have been prevented in the future.

2 Information substantiating the qualitative geological model
There have been “unconfirmed” reports that Macondo Well A which was first drilled by TransOcean Marianas and aborted on 9th Nov 2009 after reaching a depth of 4023 feet (1226 m) below seabed, was re-entered by TransOcean Deepwater Horizon on 13 or 15 Feb 2010. Thus the present blown out well is Macondo B. There were also unconfirmed reports that Macondo B was so badly blown, that the well which is been shown to the worldwide audience is the first Macondo A well which blew earlier in early March (??), before the 20 April blowout. While such “unconfirmed” information would fit in quite nicely with the geological model, it does not affect its validity even if they are not true.

On 13 Feb BP told MMS they were trying to seal cracks in the well. It took 10 days to plug the first cracks. In early March , BP told MMS they were having trouble maintaining control of surging natural gas (according to emails).

A March 10 e-mail to Frank Patton, the U.S. Minerals Management Service’s drilling engineer for the New Orleans district, from BP executive Scherie Douglas said BP planned to sever the pipe connecting the well to the rig and plug the hole. “We are in the midst of a well control situation on MC 252 #001 and have stuck pipe,” Douglas wrote, referring to the subsea block, Mississippi Canyon 252, of the stricken well. “We are bringing out equipment to begin operations to sever the drillpipe, plugback the well and bypass.” Bloomberg News (31 May 2010).

According to Bloomberg news, Douglas or BP received verbal approval at 11pm on 11 March to insert the cement plug about 750feet (229m) above the bottom of the hole. The Federal regulators gave BP permission to cement the well at a shallower depth than normally would have been required after the hole caved in on drilling equipment.

In the congressional hearing on 15 June 2010, BP Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward and other top executives gave the impression they were ignorant of the difficulties the company’s engineers were grappling with in the well before the explosion… according to U.S. Representative Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. “We could find no evidence that you paid any attention to the tremendous risk BP was taking,” Waxman said as Hayward waited to testify. “There is not a single email or document that you paid the slightest attention to the dangers at this well.”

BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles and exploration chief Andy Inglis “were apparently oblivious to what was happening,” said Waxman, a California Democrat. “BP’s corporate complacency is astonishing.”

Perhaps Henry Waxman was not aware that there was a massive share sell-off (531,461 shares in total) by 4 BP directors just days after the 11 March incident. Tony Hayward sold 223,288 shares (a third of his total holding) on 17 March. This was followed by Byron E Grote on 18 March (58,536 shares), Andy Iglis on 23 March (219,500 shares) and Ian C Conn on 30 March (13,073 shares). And that were only BP’s directors. What about the shares sell off by BP’s executives? See Massive Shares sell off prior to expected disaster.

It is not that BP directors and executives were ignorant to the problems on the Macondo wells. Their personal fortune mattered more. It is not that they do not know a blowout was inevitable. They were only wrong in thinking that the blowout could be controlled. They had not expected the blowout to spin so badly out of control.

It did not matter whether Macondo A or Macondo B was eventually drilled to reservoir level since both wells were located right on top of the seabed escarpment which is clearly an indication of some massive geological structure beneath.

Would moving the location have made a difference?

Texaco’s Rigel well 2 km from BP’s Macondo wells (but 1 km from the edge of the escarpment), was drilled safely in stark contrast to BP’s ill fated wells. Why? The reason is obvious on Figure 1a.

The Rigel exploration well, the Texaco OCS-G-18207 #1, was drilled in 1999 in Gulf of Mexico block MC 252 in 5200’ water depth. The well targeted a Miocene age, low-relief downthrown closure/stratigraphic trap that was supported by a strong amplitude response on the 3D seismic data. The results from the Rigel exploration well were disappointing. The well encountered what was interpreted to be a 176’ thick gas-charged, low-permeability siltstone in the Rob E-age target. This reservoir was believed to be uneconomic at that time. This presentation focuses on a few stalwart individuals’ efforts to continue to pursue appraisal of this marginal discovery. These efforts included pre-appraisal geologic modeling, reservoir modeling, and analog work. (Westside - Rigel Deepwater Field Appraisal and Development 16 Nov 2005.)

3 What possibly happened?
Figures 1a shows the geological setting just prior to drilling BP’s Macondo well. Problems started as soon as the drilling entered the GWSF hazardous zone. The top hole condition would have deteriorated as escaping gas swirled outside the well casing, enlarging the well bore. With heavy circulation losses, the drillers would have reduced ECD (equivalent circulation density) to limit mud losses and minimize damage to the pervious (weak) rock formation. Unfortunately, each time the ECD dipped below the previous charged pressure, gas influx would kick in. Thus the drillers would have no choice but to keep ECD high enough to keep the gas out. Cementation to isolate the hydraulic connection between layers would be futile as the cement would not remain static long enough to set. This was partly due to pressurized gas and cavitations in the GWSF zone caused earlier, by drilling in an open hole. The dynamic movement of fluids in the GWSF zone gradually increased the fractures and permeability in the vicinity of the poorly cemented well bore as the drilling continued deeper.

The presence of gas-saturated weak rock formation immediately underlying the non-lithified sediment is a slow acting hazardous condition (GWSF hazards) not readily recognized or understood by the industry despite being the common factor in most blowouts. Although GWSF hazardous conditions do not immediately caused a blowout, the seeds of destruction are sown at this shallow sub-formation depth. The deterioration of the well bore outside the casing and damage to the rock sub-formation is beyond the control of any drillers. Pumping in cement to seal the cracks would not work under gas-charged conditions.

The drilling problems were further compounded when up-dipping beds were encountered with sudden loss of circulation. To cut mud loss, ECD had to be reduced. But when pressure in the well dipped, gas influx kicked in as the Extended Gas Charged Pressure (EGCP) zone had previously been charged to a higher mud weight. See illustrations in figures 1d &1e.

The permeable contact aureole of the salt dome or an intrusive dyke, obviously added to the problem. It is like having a “U-tube” counterbalancing the mud column inside the well. No wonder the drillers described the Macondo well as a “Hell Well”. Compare this nightmare scenario with the Texaco Rigel well which was drilled safely just a km away from the salt dome. BP’s management should have correlated the drilling problems with the geological structure. If they had done that (which is the gist of this article), they would have realised that the Macondo well was just a disaster waiting to happen. They should have taken the responsible way out by abandoning the well before reaching the reservoir.

By failing to do that, they were just postponing the inevitable. The “giant aquifer system” was fully charged and just waiting for any mistake to trigger the blowout. No wonder the directors and top executives were rushing to sell off their shares after the 11 March incident, in anticipation of the worse to come. Perhaps BP should stand for “Before Public-interest” for the blatant manner in which personal profits come before the welfare of the environment and public.

As soon as the pressure in the well dipped below the EGCP (replacing the drilling mud with seawater) gas influx kicked in, at the leaking points in the well from pressurised gas stored at the GSWF zone. When the gas bubble in the well started to rise and expand with lower pressure, it rapidly displaced the seawater column (>5,000 ft) in the riser. This is like sucking liquid out of a glass with a straw. The tremendous suction and static pressure exerted by the reservoir created a sudden jump in differential force, resulting in the breach of the bottom cement plug 2 days later. This triggered the uncontrollable continuous gushing of oil and gas out of the reservoir through the blown well. See figure 1f.

The futile attempts to “Top Kill” or “Top Cap” the gushing well only made the bad situation worse by increasing the damage to GWSF zone and increasing the EGCP size. See previous article; The high risk of top capping the gushing well.

After quickly reaching 6,400 psi in the pressure test using the TOP CAP, the increase in the well pressure slowed down to 10, then 2 to less than 1 psi per hour. Oil and gas are obviously being forced into the “giant aquifer” which kept expanding and finding new pathways in the rock formation. That is why the initial 8,000 to 9,000 psi passing mark would never be reached. After 41 hours, the pressure inside the top capped well was 6,745 psi and still rising very slowly. Of course, the pressure inside the capped well would never decrease (until the reservoir is depleted) even as oil and gas are being forced further into the EGCP zone and into the giant aquifer.

As only the light hydrocarbons (methane) filter or seep through the Quaternary Sediment layers, no oil seeps would be evident at the sea floor yet. The oil would remain buried beneath the sea floor until weaknesses in the sediment developed into cracks big enough to result in active oil seeps (which would also mean a near calamity). By then the hot oil and gases from the reservoir may have tilted the world into an irreversible ecological disaster, by warming up and vaporising strata of methane hydrates into gas. The result would be an exponential increase in dissolved methane in the deep waters of the Gulf and eventually into our atmosphere. No one knows how much methane hydrates lay beneath the Gulf sea floor.

But one thing is for sure. The longer the gushing well stays “top capped”, the more severe is the environmental damage. There is no logical reason why the gushing oil could not be tapped through the LMRP TOP CAP with a floating platform or subsea facilities; rather shutting it off completely to cause further damage to the fragile sub-seabed structure and sediment.

4 What you don’t see can be covered up.
Perhaps the botched-up “photochop-chop” photos put up by BP was just a test. To see how keen the public eyes were in following BP’s clean up efforts. It would be hard to believe BP paid professionals for such a shoddy job. We should give BP more credit than that (remember the shares issues)? Let’s play dumb and the problems will go away.

Many experts in the oil industry were surprised and questioned the rationality of capping the well when the relief wells were so close to achieving their “bottom kill” objectives. They could have installed the TOP CAP much earlier. This means that BP knew if the gushing well was completely shut at the top, the oil and gas would spread beneath the sea floor and gas seeps would start appearing. So the TOP CAP had to be placed just before the relief well was ready for the “magic show”. Hurricane Bonnie spoilt the show and the delay is already showing signs of stress (gas seeps).

This could also mean that BP was getting less and less confident that the relief wells would work. The relief wells were held up as the last Trump card. If it fails in full (ROV) view of the concerned public throughout the world, BP’s shares would drop like a stone. There are good geological reasons why the chances of the relief wells’ success are less than 30%. But that would be in the next posting.

So instead “of going on a public stage with a final trump card of 30% chance of success” and risking everything BP stands for, a magic show will be set up so that what ever happens, it will be a success. How?

With a gushing well in full view, a successful bottom kill would show oil slowing down to eventually a tickle. With the cap on, it would be easier to manipulate the data. Thus botched-up photos were a test to check the keenness of the public eye. If the bottom kill fails, there is no independent monitor to prove it. BP could quickly pack and leave the site. Without ROVs’ video, the world is blind. Independent scientific researches later on could be disputed or controlled in post-recovery mopped up battle plan.

The TOP CAP had to be installed and the integrity pressure tests used as an excuse to completely shut down the flow. There is no need to prove the well is leaking. It is already a fact. David Copperfield could not have performed better.

For complete appendix to article see Diagrammatic Illustration of blowout

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kokohito

"But as Washington points out that doesn’t mean the oil has magically disappeared as the media is widely reporting."

So that's where the oil had gone to. Awesome revelations! OMG.

  • 9 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:37 AM EDT
Jaybao

I can see clearly now the tie-up between the geology, drilling, financial interests, and the magic shows. BP don't really care do they? Wonder if all the oil companies are like that? What - Blowout Profitability or Blown Public-relationship?

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:23 AM EDT
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nyghtshayde

Nice article BK Lim.You have brought a lot of technical information together.Very good,considering all the effort to hide this information.

  • 9 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks Nyghtshayde. It's my pleasure. Too many mistakes had been hidden under the shroud of technical confidentiality.

Never in the history of human disaster, were so many mistakes made by so few in the needless destruction of so many at the expense of millions more affected in one way or another; all for the colossal greed of the few. - adapted from Winston Churchill.

  • 8 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
Dowser

Thank Heavens for this article, which is well-written, articulate, informative, and understandable. Thank you for writing it. Thank you for the detailed geologic view, which, even if generalized, is a whole lot more than I knew. (35 years ago, we really didn't discuss this too much at college...)

Wonderful article, and I wish I could vote for it twice. It has helped me to digest a lot that I didn't know, way up here in KY, and I truly appreciate the time and effort that you have made to explain it to us.

Thank you, BK Lim.

  • 9 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:04 PM EDT
BK Lim

Dowser

You are welcome. Wish I could cut down the time preparing those diagrams. But a picture is worth a thousand words. Glad they bring clarity to the whole picture. I am just wondering where I can get hold of the coordinates of the relief wells. Would like to know where they are on the bathymetry.

  • 8 votes
#8.1 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:51 PM EDT
Dowser

I wish I could be of help-- When I was researching my earlier articles, there wasn't much out and about... I don't think it is available, to those of us that 'don't need to know', so to speak.

The diagrams make this very very worthwhile to me! They are very clear! Perhaps you could include them in an additional article, as an aside to this, and put them in the middle of the page, so they are more easily read? Block, is what it is called. Just a thought-- you have already spent so much time on this!

((((((((((((((BK Lim))))))))))))))

You did a GREAT job! Thank you again!

  • 9 votes
#8.2 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:56 PM EDT
BK Lim

I am in the process of creating an animation out of this. I got to the blow-out part then the program bombed out. It got too big for the memory I think. Will have to reduce the video size. I am still finding my way to putting it on the You-tube.

Can I post video clips directly on the newsvine? I know you can seed it from somewhere.

  • 7 votes
#8.3 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:03 PM EDT
Dowser

Technically, that is way beyond me!

You can create a YouTube and link it, but A. Mac or Malamute Man or rottlady may know how to do what you need to do-- rottlady is a great teacher, and a very nice person besides--

I'd send her an email, and include a link to this article, and reference it to posting 8.3. She will help you if she can-- she is a grand person! If she can't help, perhaps Malamute Man can-- he's a whiz at things, too! :-)

I will look forward to your video-- or however you want to do it! Good luck!

Would you mind if I clipped this to a couple of the environmental groups I belong to? I always ask permission before doing so-- but you've worked so hard on this, I know a lot of other people would really be interested in seeing it!

  • 6 votes
#8.4 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:07 PM EDT
BK Lim

Dowser, you mean just pictures? There are about 15 of them. Could try to do that. By the way there appears to be very few options to control the pictures, other than right / left / block. Sometimes the sequence do not appear in the right order. I had to remove them and reattach. Is there a better way to reorder the pictures' sequence?

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#8.5 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:09 PM EDT
Dowser

You have to put them in the exact order you want them. And yes, it messes up on me all the time. Block would be a good way to share them, sort of as an addendum to your article. The pictures are too good to not be able to see them up close! (I think)

Be sure to put a link to this article on that one, and a link to that article on this one! More work for you, I know! But you have wonderful illustrations!

I think you have done a wonderful job! BRAVO!

  • 6 votes
#8.6 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
BK Lim

Dowser,

Sorry I was responding from the bottom up. Yep, go ahead spread the word. The more the merrier. Thanks again.

  • 8 votes
#8.7 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:50 PM EDT
sushicat

BK Lim,

Dowser spread the word to me and I really liked your article. technical but was interesting and informative.

I don't know what I am going to do with the information I am gathering. But this event sickens me and those B$#@@# do not need to get off easy. I trust the American CEO even less.

Thank you are posting this information.

  • 9 votes
#8.8 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:33 PM EDT
Synthesis

Sushicat, one place to start (which is what I did) was to use Amplify to publish it out to Facebook and on Twitter. It may or may not help spread the word, but it can't hurt.

  • 9 votes
#8.9 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:14 PM EDT
mommy_o

I really hope that this article gets a lot of attention. The work you've done is very much appreciated and I look forward to finding more of your work.

  • 9 votes
#8.10 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 2:11 AM EDT
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Briwnys

Excellent, excellent article, BK Lim! Thank you for shedding light on all the murky areas and providing a solid basis for those troublesome questions that have gone unanswered. Yours is a voice of reason and logic amid the confusion. I second Dowser; I wish I could vote for this article twice. Be sure I have added you to my watch list and eagerly await the next installment.

Thank you!

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 PM EDT
BK Lim

Briwnys

Thanks for the compliment. When I started 3 weeks ago I thought no one would be interested in reading what I had to write especially when I got booted out from my first attempt at the Roughneck (drillers) discussion forum. But your compliments will definitely spur me further.

Had wanted to do this for a long time, but spent too much time out in the survey vessels and travelling. Am very glad I made time for this.

  • 10 votes
#9.1 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
Que2646

Tanks again for the analysis. You have raised some questions that need answers. I hope many more people are interested. I sent a letter to my Senators outlining your argument and also posted it on the Tulsa World website.

I could not get the link to " BP's erroneous bathymetric chart" to work. Could you post the link again? Also, I could not find much about Britian's laws on insider trading. Did the executives at BP violate their law?

  • 10 votes
#9.2 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
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Dowser

I have clipped this wonderful article to:

Absolutely NO Politics

Earth News

Newsvine Science

Save Environment, Save Wildlife

Conservation Vine

I think everyone needs to read this! :-) You will get the comments, and the credit-- as it should be!

  • 11 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:16 PM EDT
BK Lim

Gee..., Wow... thanks for your support.

  • 11 votes
#10.1 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:25 PM EDT
Dowser

This is the information I've been looking for, for months! Thank you!

You betcha-- it is my pleasure to broadcast your work!

  • 11 votes
#10.2 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:39 PM EDT
BK Lim

Dowser, the diagrams are up at

Diagrammatic Illustration of blowout

  • 10 votes
#10.3 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:21 AM EDT
Dowser

Thanks! I am on my way!

  • 10 votes
#10.4 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:56 AM EDT
Mrs D-1475814

Dowser... Bore Head brought me to this article. It is very disturbing. I understand more now that I have seen the visuals of what happened. BK... thank you so much for the education by showing the events of this disaster.

  • 8 votes
#10.5 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 10:09 AM EDT
Dowser

Dear Mrs. D-- BK Lim has done a fabulous job! Fabulous!

It helped me so much to see it-- I only had a vague idea about how it was working!

:-)

(((((((((Mrs. D))))))))))))

  • 8 votes
#10.6 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT
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bore-head007

Thank you BKLim, this is so interesting, and I'll be spending more time studying those exposing diagram's.BP is the bumbling master of manipulation, with NOAA running a close second.

  • 9 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:07 AM EDT
BK Lim

They have been in a fire fighting mode from day 1 of drilling in February till now. The priority is to put out the fire with the least environmental damage, not the financial and publicity damages BP is trying to limit.

To prevent future disasters we need to look at the larger issues and the root causes. A blanket ban on any drilling or exploration is just as bad as the hasty ban on air flights over EU due to the volcanic eruption at Iceland. I am sure there are more logical minds at BP and NOAA but they are being shut out by vested business interests; just as I had experienced countless times in my work as a geohazards specialist.

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#11.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:40 PM EDT
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Man of Knowledge

Interesting theory. I have one simple question. If the problem was not preventable due to the geological structures in the area around the well (GWSF zone), why wouldn't the relief wells experience the same problems or worse since the structures are now charged even further than before?

If this theory is valid then surely some engineers know it. Why would a contractor accept the task of drilling relief wells under such hazardous conditions?

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Reply#12 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:45 AM EDT
BK Lim

Man of knowledge, thank you for asking these important questions. Below is a compressed simplified answer (there are more to it) to answer your skepticism which is understandable. Please note that my posting is not a theory but a geological model (albeit a generalized one) that can be further fine-tuned with quantitative data. It is mainly a structural model (a framework), leaving room for input of detailed geological and drilling data later on.

Not all sub-formation (rock) layer is hazardous. There are 2 main key factors besides others.

(1) Fractures developed under stress and deformation. Thus the key is to look for such possible geological circumstances. Further the “anticline” part of the deformation subject to tensional stress will be more “open” and hence more permeable. The “syncline” or concave section being more compressed will be tighter and hence less permeable for the same rock bed. (I am using anticline to mean the convex part of any deformation as opposed to the larger geological structural term).

(2) Gas migrate updip or upwards. Thus the GWSF hazards are more potent (risky) at the apex of a fold or the highest part of the structural gas trap. The degree of potency generally diminishes down slope, depending on specific geological circumstances. That’s why high resolution geohazards surveys are conducted to determine the risks.

As an illustration, Texaco’s Rigel well was drilled safely (as far as I can tell from the feedback) because it was on the downthrown block (fault?) or downside of the intrusion (salt dome or other intrusive). BP’s Macondo wells as illustrated, drilled through the GWSF hazardous zone at the apex and continued to encounter the up-dipping beds all the way down to the reservoir.

I am still on the look out for the relief wells locations, (please forward to me if you have the coordinates) to see where they are relative to the escarpment. If they are spot on the escarpment, I do not see why the relief wells should not have the same problems as the Macondo A and B wells. Even if they do, I do not think BP would be giving out these “distressing signals” given that this was their only trump card out of a poker game. Whether the relief wells would have more problems at the GWSF zone again depends on several more factors – other than just a simplistic “worse since the structures are now charged even further than before”. I am taking a big risk (by being wrong) since I am only looking from a generalized position using only public domain information. However seeing the common signs of the blowout and the high percentage of ignorance (even among geohazards specialists) with regard to the GWSF hazards, I made the prediction that I am more likely to be right than wrong. Trying to understand the blowout from inside the well (micro view) would be extremely difficult without wider site geohazards perspectives. Exploration geological perspectives would be too wide; like a short-sighted vision of a pinhole from 10 m away.

On the other hand, if the relief wells had been drilled on the safe side of the escarpment (God, I hope they do) they would not be having these pesky shallow zone problems and would be able to handle the deeper zone problems better. But as the relief wells approach the beleaguered A (or B) wells, they are going to encounter the same fractured geological formations close to the salt dome or intrusive. I am not surprised they had a 40 ft collapse of the uncased bottom section of the hole. This was supposed to be the cement plug for them to reenter the well bore, remember? How could the well bore wall cave in if it was filled with cement which was supposed to have been “cured” or set. Where did all the cement go? You must remember when they pushed in the cement using the mud, they just assumed the cement would be pushed to the bottom of the hole to form a solid cement plug. So how could 40 ft column of cement disappear and left only debris?

This confirmed that there were cement runs after the cement seal and “40ft column” of it was forced into the formation. BP’s drillers would have no way of knowing until they reenter the cemented plug section. (This actually answers part of your question in #13). Most drillers only assume the shallow section of the well bore had been cemented. Logging tools are not designed to measure more than a few metres from the casing, certainly not the extended gas-charged pressurized (EGCP) zone which could extend from tens to hundreds of metres from the well bore.

What I have written is no longer a theory since it has been proven many times before during my long career. I was the only one in the round-table meeting to shut down Barton-A platform after the blowout, to argue that the platform would be safe from collapsing despite all the scary ROV videos of cracking seafloor spewing out columns of gas and debris. There are many others, but to press home the point “surely some engineers know it”, you have to understand that engineers work on data and risk assessment presented to them by geohazards specialists. As I have written before, GWSF hazards cannot be detected from even the highest resolution seismic data. They had to be predicted and logically analysed from correct site geohazards perspectives.

In part III of the The root causes of Blowout (yet to be posted) you will see how most geophysicists will not even discuss the potential risks because there is no amplitude anomalies (in the seismic sections) associated with GWSF hazards. And there will be no amplitude anomalies because gas infiltration into the fractures and pore spaces will “homogenize” with respect to acoustic properties. The amplitude of any reflection depends on the acoustic impedance (contrast in acoustic properties) between layers. Thus when the GWSF hazardous zone is one homogeneous entity, where are the reflection and amplitude anomalies? It is for this reason GWSF hazards are not seen and never presented in most geohazards report. You have to read my paper “The need for post survey independent QC to check the high failure rate of geohazards predictions. (in publication, Geo Soc Malaysia bulletin)” to understand the many problems I had in making the engineers and oil companies understand these “unseen” hazards. For the geophysicists, if a potential hazard cannot be visibly “SEEN” then it is not a problem - CYA attitude.

You are right – nobody would want to drill into these hazardous conditions if they “KNEW”. But after investing more than 2 years of work and millions in a prospect (wells, platform etc), most oil companies would not even want to “KNOW”. If they do not know, they cannot be held responsible & financially liable. Moving locations or redesigning reservoir project plans involve costly delays which they would want to avoid. But they have to if you can show them pseudo-hazards (as I call them) with high “amplitude anomalies” even if these were caused by data artifacts, noise (yes instrument noise), tuning effects, peat or lignite but not the unseen GWSF hazards. Even moving exploratory wells are difficult when the exploration dept complains they cannot hit their shallow targets from deviated trajectory designed to test multiple targets at different depths.

  • 12 votes
#12.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:04 PM EDT
Dowser

most oil companies would not even want to “KNOW”

You've hit that nail on the head. That happens a lot, in many other industries, as well!

  • 10 votes
#12.2 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:15 PM EDT
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Man of Knowledge

I have another question.

Cementation to isolate the hydraulic connection between layers would be futile as the cement would not remain static long enough to set.

Which casing string does this refer to? The graphic seems to indicate the GSWF was at a shallow depth. That means it was penetrated prior to setting the surface casing or perhaps the first intermediate string of casing. If the cement job was ineffective, that would be easily detected by logs and under no circumstances would drilling continue until the problem was fixed.

The whole purpose of setting casing is to isolate the geological structures that have been penetrated from the wellbore. Are you suggesting they continued drilling under this condition, because that borders on suicidal and even a driller much less an engineer would know better?

From what I have seen multiple casing strings were set on this well. Each setting isolates the wellbore from surrounding formations. How many of these strings do you suggest had ineffective cement jobs?

  • 2 votes
Reply#13 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
BK Lim

Man of knowledge,

If you have to ask these questions, you probably missed the gist of my article. There are already many discussions on the location or locations of the leaks in the casing strings by experts in drilling and well engineering. As a humble geohazards specialist, I would not want to be involved in a technical discussion on drilling itself. The well is leaking – that is a fact so any denial would be counter-productive.

From you questions and comments, you appear to be assuming that once a section of the well is cemented (let’s be more precise, the annulus between the casing and the well bore wall, the bare face of the soil or rock formation) and sealed it stays that way. It may be true 80% of the time when the well bore thru tight rock formation or stiff clays/dense sand layers. If you had been involved in shallow land drilling, directional drilling or tunnel boring (easier to illustrate) the drillers will tell you it is easy to drill through consistent hard rocks or soil totally but not a mixture of both. Drilling through a rock layer into a soil / cavity zone is more problematical then drilling from soil into rock. I am no expert in drilling but this is what the experience shows.

Drilling always advance in the deepest uncased section of the well. So even if the top section of the well had been cased and well cemented, as soon as the open well bore advances into the gas-saturated weak (fractured) sub-formation, the gas is going to escape into the open well bore and up to the previous level of cemented annulus. The gas will then slowly seep between the cement and the soil (not the cement to the casing assuming the bonding between casing and cement had been perfect). Eventually the seep will progress to gas swirling outside the bonded cement as the soil (sediment) particles disintegrate and airlifted to the sea floor. But this is not necessary the only escape route. When the drilling mud pushes out the gas from the well bore, the gas momentarily compressed to a higher pressure before dissipating deeper into the fractured sub-formation. The pulsating interaction between the gas and drilling fluid weakens the overlying soil/sediment structure and helps in the disintegration. Loose sands (so common at the unconformity) underlying stiff or hard clay would be the worst combination but even thick hard clay capping layer will eventually break down.

So Man of Knowledge, even when the top hole section is initially cemented, there is no guarantee cavities will not develop outside the cemented annulus. The ingredients (soil / sediment layers immediately overlying gas-saturated weak (pervious) sub-formation (rocks)) are necessary to sow the seeds of destruction outside the casing / casing-cement.

Yes the “stated purpose of setting casing is to isolate the geological structures that have been penetrated from the wellbore” is cast in stone in every basic textbook of drilling. The question is how effective? So until the engineers and drillers face up to the facts and find an effective way to over-come this problem outside the casing, then I am afraid we are just playing Russian roulette. The fact is, probably less than 20% of all the wells drilled had this problem (since the last time I counted back in 2000). We can easily review all the site survey reports to pinpoint the ones with this problem even for wells already drilled or platform already installed (like Barton-A and Montara). Why do we have to risk the lives of our offshore workers on these rigs unnecessarily when there is a simple and cheap solution of isolating the problematic ones? Any blanket ban on drilling or exploration, tighter regulations (we already have tons of them) solution will not work.

Whatever new regulations are implemented, crooked vested interests will always circumvent them. They become part of the problem and new burden and add costs to the economy. Sure have all the offshore workers study till PhD in safety but will that guarantee a disaster like this will not happen? The fact that US have one of the highest standards, tightest regulations, best expertise and technologies and still have the largest and most disastrous Oil Spill to date, means having the best does not always work. Sometimes it is the simple logical understanding which most of the readers seem to share, goes a long way to solving the problems. And BP does not seem to be listening to the common voice of reason.

Take the case of the recent Gas well Blast Indiana Pittsburgh. The well was drilled 2 years ago. If the blast had not been caused by sabotage or faulty equipment failures, it should be a prime candidate for gas seeps and shallow accumulation by the well bore.

“under no circumstances would drilling continue until the problem was fixed”

“Are you suggesting they continued drilling under this condition, because that borders on suicidal and even a driller much less an engineer would know better?”

As explained earlier, if BP had strictly followed the rules, the wells probably would not have gotten deeper than the first 5000 ft. It is not me who you should direct the above questions or statements. The evidences are all over the blogs.

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#13.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:07 PM EDT
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Man of Knowledge

The presence of gas-saturated weak rock formation immediately underlying the non-lithified sediment is a slow acting hazardous condition (GWSF hazards) not readily recognized or understood by the industry despite being the common factor in most blowouts. Although GWSF hazardous conditions do not immediately caused a blowout, the seeds of destruction are sown at this shallow sub-formation depth. The deterioration of the well bore outside the casing and damage to the rock sub-formation is beyond the control of any drillers. Pumping in cement to seal the cracks would not work under gas-charged conditions.

This statement has no basis in fact other than the part about it being a common factor in blowouts. The presence of these formations is well understood. Once these formations are cased off they are no longer a factor in the well control regime as there is no longer a path to the wellbore from the formation. No drilling operation proceeds until effective isolation of these formations has been established.

There is no need to prove the well is leaking. It is already a fact.

While this contention may be true, there is absolutely no evidence to conclude it is fact. One thing for sure is that if it were a fact, the charged zones would have been encountered during the initial drilling of the relief wells. With federal oversight by non-oil industry scientists I find it exceedingly hard to swallow that they all agreed to suppress this data.

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Reply#14 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:58 PM EDT
Dowser

Man of Knowledge-- I am a geologist, but a water geologist. Never-the-less, I have many friends in the oil and gas business-- people that I respect. One of them told me, who has a friend at Haliburton, that BP would not spend the money to buy the special "binder" that Haliburton has developed. As my geologist friend described it, it is a binder that locks the particles of cement and sand together.

I have had several friends of mine state exactly what Bk Lim has stated here, above. I personally don't know doodly squat about it, and will freely admit it-- I am in the water industry. But what BK Lim has stated goes right along with the speculation of my friends, who have many years of experience in the oil patch-- in the Gulf to boot.

No drilling operation proceeds until effective isolation of these formations has been established.

I think that what BK Lim, and all my geology buddies are saying, is that they did.

With federal oversight by non-oil industry scientists I find it exceedingly hard to swallow that they all agreed to suppress this data.

I think all of us have run into "taboo subjects" about the BP well. A couple of months ago, no one had any information about the Corexit being used, remember? I don't know that anyone is suppressing the data-- it is just not available, especially to the general public, and much of it may be proprietary.

I have a tendency to believe BK Lim-- because 1) it makes sense, and 2) it is essentially the same thing I've heard from my colleagues, just put into a way that is more easily understood. (i.e. my colleagues had no illustrations except for what they drew on a napkin.)

I think we all have to remember that this is a generalized view, not a site-specific view, which is likely far more complicated. However, it illustrates what is happening, in a very general sort of way-- and generally, I would have a tendency to believe that it is correct.

I am not asking this to be nasty or challenging, ok? I'm truly curious-- do you have any site specific information that would add to the discussion and help us to further understand the situation?

Hope you have a great day!

  • 11 votes
#14.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:41 PM EDT
Briwnys

I'm not a geologist, but I have worked in the environmental monitoring field on the Gulf Coast around the Houston area and am very familiar with the petrochemical industry and with BP's (very deserved) reputation - I lived in Texas City. I also have a certain knack of being able to read and process technical information and have read extensively on the seafloor composition around the Mississippi Canyon and the Louann Salt. What BK Lim is saying only reinforces that information.

  • 13 votes
#14.2 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:09 PM EDT
Man of Knowledge

While I certainly agree that both BP and Transocean were negligent (perhaps criminally) in the structural well design and certainly in the operational decisions made, I don't agree that satellite and seismic data trumps information gathered during the drilling operation. While well logs have a limited range they are very effective in detecting problems with cement around a wellbore which is where the problem must start to have a blowout. Regardless of the geology, dealing with shallow gas charged sands, lost circulation, and cementation problems are not uncommon in the industry and well understood in terms of the methods to maintain well control when these problems are encountered during a drilling operation. The whole reason exploratory wells are drilled is that seismic data cannot provide the information that a physical well does about geological characteristics at a specific site.

Even BP would not continue drilling under the scenario this article describes since it is clearly inviting massive financial losses far exceeding the cost of abandoning a well.

I also have a hard time swallowing the apocalyptic conclusions reached. I'm not a geologist or a petroleum engineer but I worked in the field for 10 years in all phases of drilling operations from spud in to completion and every operation I have ever been on would never proceed under the circumstances described. I only know what I have read about this well, but I do know the relief wells have been drilled under heavy oversight by a whole range of engineers and scientists not affiliated with BP so I can't believe that any data gathered during drilling of those wells was hidden by BP.

I don't know if casing was set and cemented before the well was abandoned for the storm, but there had to be some open hole at the bottom (perhaps rat hole) since cased hole by definition cannot collapse. The well was abandoned for a number of days which means there was no circulation of fluids during that time. It would be very logical to find that a section of open hole deteriorated during that time.

  • 2 votes
#14.3 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
Dowser

I thought, and this is how we do in the water industry, which is very different from oil and gas-- Anyway, I thought that seismic and satellite data was used for a more regional study, so to speak, while well drilling data was actually site specific.

I believe that BK Lim is using regional data and personal experience from a geohazards viewpoint, to draw his/her conclusions. And, lots of drilling data is hidden by oil companies. I doubt the drilling logs have been hidden from the experts during the drilling of the relief wells, but certainly the original well logs would be proprietary information. Finding that is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.

Not being well-versed in oil and gas drilling, anywhere, although I have 'sat' on a few oil and gas wells to read samples, I don't see how anyone could use much satellite data anyway. Or at least not in the context that I am used to seeing satellite data, which is really glorified aerial photography, although color-coded to show infra-red or whatever. Is there a specific band width they use to see the ocean floor?

Of course you would never proceed under those circumstances. You are obviously a person of integrity! However, one does not know what wonderful people of high integrity would do if coerced. I see that all the time, too-- people who are decent, honest, and competent geologists are sometimes compromised within their position by the higher-ups who insist they do things that are cost-effective, not necessarily geologically "safe" or "proper".

Besides, who, of any of us, can predict exactly what a geologic formation will do before we drill it and see it? I know I can't. In the glaciated terrain where I work, I can't guarantee that two wells will be alike, even if only 15' apart. :-)

It would be very logical to find that a section of open hole deteriorated during that time.

Yes, it would, but that is a different issue-- one small section of open hole collapse versus an entire upwelling of oil and gas along the sides of a fractured salt dome.

I believe you to be very competent in your field-- I also believe that BK Lim is very competent in his/her field. Perhaps you are both looking at the same thing from different perspectives. And, we all have to remember, we weren't there, and didn't hear the decisions as they were being made, with the amount of data that was available to them at the time.

  • 10 votes
#14.4 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:41 PM EDT
BK LimDeleted
Man of Knowledge

I agree that high cost drilling operations are very time sensitive and push to move forward but I have personally seen extensive delays to solve problems with well control. In my experience some people may be cowed by their superiors but in a complex operation with many involved it would be difficult to maintain that type of malpractice as a secret. People would quit their jobs rather than proceed under those conditions.

Regarding the outside blowout scenario. That is truly a nightmare for any drilling operation and I have wondered all along if there was an annular blowout on the last casing string set along the casing itself. A blowout along the annulus between cement and strata would not escape through the BOP so there would clearly be oil or gas on the outside of the BOP from the seabed. That doesn't seem to be the case.

I believe that they had problems with gas intrusion into the well and lost circulation all during the drilling process but managed to maintain control. They had problems with the BOP and should have pulled it back to the surface for repair but that would have cost millions and they were close to TD so they tried to let it slide until they were done. When they foolishly decided to displace the mud in the riser with seawater and at the same time offload it to a vessel making it hard to monitor return volumes the reduction in hydrostatic head caused gas already in the mud to come out of solution build a bubble that expanded up the casing rapidly and blew a great deal of additional mud out of the well. They were unable to shut the BOP and the rapid release of hydrostatic pressure at the cement plug caused it to fail.

That is just my opinion, and you may well know more than me, but I like to play devil's advocate when I can see flaws in an argument. I mean no disrespect at all. The article clearly has been well thought out on the technical side. The political aspects of it are hard for me to accept.

I suppose my time in the field engendered a good deal of respect for drill crews and toolpushers who have incredibly difficult jobs. Most of them have no trouble finding employment and will walk away from a job if they don't like what is going on with it. Heck, I have seen entire drill crews quit just because it is deer season. I have less respect for Company reps but most of the ones I have worked with are very independent and knowledgeable. They have tremendous responsibility and they know it.

I do thank you for the long an detailed responses to my questions. Time will surly reveal if you are correct.

  • 3 votes
#14.6 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:03 AM EDT
BK Lim

Man of Knowledge

I thank you too for giving me the chance to explain in details. Like I said it is a qualitative model giving an alternative perspective. I am sure it will be wrong in some details but that is the general scheme of things.

  • 9 votes
#14.7 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 1:01 AM EDT
BK Lim

(this comment was posted earlier at #14.5, have self-censored words best left unsaid)

Man of Knowledge

I don't agree that satellite and seismic data trumps information gathered during the drilling operation.

We are not talking about the superiority of one data over the other. The bathymetric chart (submitted to MMS) shows a smooth sea floor where Macondo wells A & B were sited. The satellite image and the regional bathy contour by NOAA, clearly shows an escarpment edge where wells were located. BP’s bathy compiled from multibeam echo sounder at 3m binning should have picked up more tell-tale seabed features. Would the bathymetry have made the differnce?

You should get more detailed bathymetric information from 3m binning cell MBES data. I have had a few experiences where the contractor’s MBES malfunctioned / incapable of reaching the deep water depths. We had to resort to single beam echo sounder which of course smoothened out all the details. I am not saying this is the case here but there possibilities.

Normally during site geohazards assessment it is standard practice to avoid any escarpment on the seabed since it would be an indication of some undesirable structures beneath. I am sure the seismic data would show something as well. My question is this: There are many steps before the well locations are finalized. How was this obvious feature missed out?

I agree with you that drill logs are more detailed and accurate than seismic and satellite imagery data. If they can missed out such a large feature, how many more "things" had they been missing? Obviously some analyses are more diligent than others. I am just point out the obvious.

Which bring us to the drilling problems. From the testimonies, it is quite obvious many of the professionals down the line had been putting up red flags.

From my own experience, things are always in a rush. In a rush, most things can be overlooked. They always want the report yesterday, when the data just arrived today and the rig is drilling tomorrow - due to some last minute change of plan.

What I am trying to say is that once the project is set in motion, it goes like an express train and doesn’t stop for anyone until it hits the wall. That’s the impression I get. The investigation on the root causes of the Macondo blowout has to start from the planning stages itself. Was it management imprudence or some department down the line? I think the main theme is the same everywhere – Mistakes are made everyday, but the system corrects itself if everybody is allowed some freedom of judgment and responsibility. But once an aggressive CEO gets onboard and pushes profitability or other agenda above everything else, slowly the system tilts to dictatorial management where independent reasonability is not allowed. Once the project gets on to the field, even with negative feedbacks (like the problems during drilling), no one wants to be the one responsible to change the course of action. That's Newton’s law of Human motion.

  • 8 votes
#14.8 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
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docellen

Interesting article. I like the way you challenge BP. If they don't like this theory, then tell us the truth.

Interesting also to hear your experience in getting "booted out" of a drillers forum. I'm an engineer (not petroleum), but my reaction when seeing the first news of the gushing oil at the blowout preventer was to ask some questions on eng-tips.com, an engineering forum that I have been a member of for four years. My account was promptly blocked, and they did it in a way to make it look like technical difficulties. I signed up again, as docellen, and was careful to not zero in too quickly on the embarrassing questions. Last week, my account was blocked again - same story, technical difficulties. We had some interesting discussions going on alternative ways to deal with the crisis. I can't post there anymore, but I do see most of the discussions I started still there, and a few of the participants wondering where I went.

I set up my own discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/stop_blowout. I've got a few engineers who share my interest in the relevant technologies, and we are refining our designs using SketchUp. One of our designs, a floating flare, would be useful right now if they had to relieve the pressure at the wellhead. I posted this on The Oil Drum, and got nothing but stonewalling, ridicule, and personal attacks. It is amazing to me how BP is able to control the public discussion on these forums.

Keep up the good work. I'll link this discussion from my group.

  • 9 votes
Reply#15 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
Synthesis

It is amazing to me how BP is able to control the public discussion on these forums.

It just further shows the extent to which they are willing to go to cover their asses and control the dialogue. I wouldn't be surprised to see their catspaw's show up here, so keep an eye out for it.

We've seen paid operatives for industry take out Newsvine accounts before.

  • 8 votes
#15.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:32 PM EDT
sushicat

Are you serious?

Okay, my naivety is showing here, I just would not have thought a newsvine group would be targeted. This changes things....this is not just a discussion or a call to action.

The "other" people are actually challenging you to fail. This is sick, especially when they can't show anyone they have exceeded in their goals. So they want everyone to be like them, a failure. Talk about "dumbing down."

  • 7 votes
#15.2 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
nyghtshayde

Are you serious?

Newsvine group and individuals can be and are targeted by far more than industry shills.My computer has taken a beating,researching the Gulf.

  • 8 votes
#15.3 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:03 AM EDT
mommy_o

Mine, as well. I can barely get to the full pages of feeds before everything in my browser freezes solid.

  • 9 votes
#15.4 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 2:07 AM EDT
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BK Lim

Man of Knowledge

If the well was not leaking at all, I would be interested how you explain the blowout? The cement plug at the bottom of the well was designed to withstand the pressure from the reservoir, even after replacing all the drilling mud with seawater, right?

“One thing for sure is that if it were a fact, the charged zones would have been encountered during the initial drilling of the relief wells. With federal oversight by non-oil industry scientists I find it exceedingly hard to swallow that they all agreed to suppress this data.”

Were you aware of all the problems DWH was having before the disaster? BP would not have given out all these information if they had not been forced to by circumstances under public pressure. Many of the questions and pressure groups were already in existence before I started blogging here in mid July. It is to the credit of all these good people (inside and outside the oil industry) that BP had to yield inch by inch their cover-ups. So if you are still unconvinced and like to continue swallowing hook and line from BP, you are by no means welcome to do so.

By the way it is not only BP but many other big companies as well. For example, EC Regulations 2037/2000 enforced on 1 Oct 2000 states that halon (an environmentally hazardous ozone depleting agent) cannot be used after 31 Dec 2002. I can tell you even the largest internationally accredited geohazards contractor are still operating their survey vessels using the banned halon. Even when the oil companies, regulatory bodies and QC companies knew about the illegal use, no actions were taken. Marine authorities of all the countries where the vessel operates in, simply ignore the violation by the contractor. And this is not the only safety and environmental violations. All these safety and environmental violations are happening right under our eyes. The rules and laws are not enforced equally on all – there is such a thing as cozy relationships. In case, you have just arrived from another planet, welcome to Planet Earth and reality.

  • 10 votes
Reply#16 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
Man of Knowledge

Please see comment #14.6 for my guess at what caused the blow out. When you say the well is leaking I assume you mean outside the wellbore. The blow out seems to be through the wellbore.

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#16.1 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT
BK Lim

A blowout along the annulus between cement and strata would not escape through the BOP so there would clearly be oil or gas on the outside of the BOP from the seabed. That doesn't seem to be the case.

No the blowout did not occur between the cement and strata. I agree if the gas blowout from the outside there would be a big crater on the seabed. I believe there is a gas influx into the well as soon as soon as the mud was replaced by the seawater.

  • 7 votes
#16.2 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:50 AM EDT
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Briwnys

At MC252, BP

  1. lost well control at least once (some reports say as many as five times),
  2. severed the drill pipe (the 'mysterious second pipe' they've talked about?),
  3. had to plug back the main well and bypass it in March when they caused the bottom of the well to split open,
  4. and then blew up what they called the 'secondary drilling' in April.

Let me repeat, their bypass, their 'secondary drilling' is the one that blew up in April. They had already split open the bottom of the original well in March. There is no guarantee the relief wells won't blow up as well.

  • 10 votes
Reply#17 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:37 PM EDT
Dowser

I know you're right. I know it. Down in my heart, I know it. I've placed a lot of hope that it would work, along with everyone else... But, I know you're right!

I hope you get my email. :-)

  • 9 votes
#17.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:49 PM EDT
BK Lim

By "BY Pass" did they move to the B location to bypass the "split open bottom" of the first well?

  • 9 votes
#17.2 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:02 PM EDT
Briwnys

That is how I understand it, yes.

  • 9 votes
#17.3 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:06 PM EDT
BK Lim

thanks for the confirmation.

  • 9 votes
#17.4 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:25 PM EDT
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Briwnys

Thank you, Dowser. That's the real deal;^D

  • 10 votes
Reply#18 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:08 PM EDT
Dowser

mahvelous! Simply mahvelous! :-)

  • 11 votes
#18.1 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:10 PM EDT
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One Miscreant

BK Lim-A couple of my "Friends" commented here, so it popped up on my tracker. I'm very glad that it did. It is informative and has the smell of science. A type of science few of us commoners would ever see, modeling. I've learned from your presentation, thanks. The discussion yields insight too.

  • 13 votes
Reply#19 - Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:32 PM EDT
nyghtshayde

The discussion yields insight too.

Nothing like -lurking and learning.This is a great discussion about the technical aspects.Many of the sites we started following have,shall I say,fallen under the influence of industry.Helps me focus more on the toxic side and the censored news.Thanks

  • 12 votes
#19.1 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 12:10 AM EDT
BK Lim

One Miscreant

Thanks for popping by. It is a learning experience for me as well. Glad you enjoy the posting.

  • 8 votes
#19.2 - Sun Aug 1, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
nyghtshayde

I think I am going to start a group for this information we have collected from all the aspects of the Gulf disaster.A place to collect the truths we find,so that it may help the people of the Gulf and expose the secrets and lies being told.

The start as Phoenix Gulf Group ,maybe we can help those in the Gulf to rise above the lies and get the help and the truth they need to move ahead.Please join if you are interested.You people are the best and that's what it will take to expose the truth.

  • 9 votes
#19.3 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 1:54 AM EDT
Dowser

Do you want us to publish all our articles there about the gulf? Even the old ones?

  • 8 votes
#19.4 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT
nyghtshayde

Do you want us to publish all our articles there about the gulf?

Yes,I was going to weed out some of my questionably sourced articles and ones that were unfounded speculation,but many of the older articles are still very relevant.I am also afraid with the direction the media has now taken,the news will become even harder to come by.That was a long winded yes,was it not? :))

  • 7 votes
#19.5 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 8:55 PM EDT
One Miscreant

Feel free to clip and/or copy anything I've done, that you feel is relevant.

  • 7 votes
#19.6 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 9:04 PM EDT
Dowser

Thanks, I'll try to do something on Friday--

Hope all is well for all of you!

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#19.7 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 10:49 PM EDT
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zaggi

Awsome post. Thank you from Russia.

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Reply#20 - Mon Aug 2, 2010 10:43 AM EDT
BK Lim

You are welcome anytime. Watch out for the updates.

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#20.1 - Mon Aug 2, 2010 1:08 PM EDT
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Frank Searl

A geological problem such as this demands a cap roughly the size of Hoover Dam over the entire zone. An idea submitted two months ago, but ignored.

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Reply#21 - Mon Aug 2, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
LifeTravler

Okay..........what an interesting article. It gives me a better understanding.

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Reply#22 - Mon Aug 2, 2010 5:43 PM EDT
jo hung lo

Interesting article - as far as i am concerned we will know soon enough how ugly it really is down in the gulf. The oil that has gushed out from the well in the past few months is out there and will eventually expose itself. The micro organisms eating up the oil is BS..... The corexit is the reason why we have not seen most of the oil yet. BP was slick enough to apply this chemical which brough most of the oil down to the ocean bed. This way we wont be able to determine how ugly the situation is. I will tell all of you readers one thing................ if any of you think that this gulf disaster is over rated, then take your family there for vacation anywhere along the shores that have been hit with oil and have a nice swim. I bet each and every one of you hypocrites wont do that.

Has everyone noticed how quiet the media has been regarding this gulf disaster. You dont hear too much of it now. also, bp got nailed with a staged control center, all quiet with our higher ups as well, no one still allowed in the gulf disaster area ? If everything is ok now then what is the problem ? why cant journalist go out on the shores anymore and talk with the bp workers or people living on the shores ? the bottom line is this........ if everything was ok out there , we would not have the secrecy that we still do....... just sit back and watch the show....eventually all of those involved in this scam will rear its ugly head. follow the money and it will tell you whose involved in the bigger picture.

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Reply#23 - Mon Aug 2, 2010 6:35 PM EDT
Max-2113876

"There has been so much information (or mis-information) on the disaster it is difficult to separate the facts from the myths"

Yes, I agree...

but what is important about this worrisome event aside from the disastrous effects (real and potential) is that it has opened up many Western eyes to the concept of abiotic oil. A mind expanded by a new concept can never return to its original size. These pictures you've posted here and on your Diagrammatic Illustration page are great, many thanks!!!

The salt domes are astonishing structures, certainly not ancient evaporated seas, not with their purity and large crystal structures... and their curious relationship with the hydrocarbon deposits, as well as their chemical congruency with that of our blood.

Here's a note on salt domes: Salt of the Earth www.aetherika.com

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Reply#24 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 2:08 AM EDT
sushicat

BK Lim,

Did you see the article in the NYT about the oil and that the oil is being seen gathering in the holes left by hermit crabs? A person stated he could poke a hole into the sandbed and oil would come up.

So would this just be from the oil gushing from the well or is it already coming out other areas as you have mention?

I saved the article as I can get my hands on it a again.

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Reply#25 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 6:40 PM EDT
Dowser

Sushi-- I bet BK can answer this better than I, but along Prince William Sound, where the Exxon Valdez spilled about 20 years ago-- if you dig 1' down into the sand, there is a thick layer of oil/sand mixed.

Probably, the oil has penetrated the sand, to a depth that the hermit crab hole is at just the right depth to intersect the oil/water interface.

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#25.1 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT
One Miscreant

The Corexit Calamity-Huffington Post, 2 Aug 2010

Back in mid-May, I posted this story after speaking to a couple of experts about the consequences of the spill. Both issued strong warning against the use of dispersants. Terry Hazen, a PhD micro-biologist at Lawrence Berkley Lab who has studied oil spills extensively, cited the example of the massive Amoco-Cadiz spill off the coast of France. Five years after the spill, the coastline had returned to normal in areas that had been left untreated. But 32 years later, the areas that had been treated with dispersants, at great expense, have yet to recover.

Marine toxicologist, Riki Ott, author of Not One Drop: Betrayal and Courage in the Wake of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill, says that these harmful chemicals that can linger in the water for decades, are not adequately tested by the EPA. And although Corexit, the chemical in question, is known to be a fetal toxin that damages blood cells and kidneys cells, causing black urine among workers that come in contact with it, the EPA, lifted an existing ban, not based on any new data, but only after changes in personnel and policies.

I think this issue will not be settled in the short term. The fish aren't going belly up yet. The canaries are still alive and suffering. It's the long term, low level exposure that will get the wildlife and folks of the Gulf, IMO.

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#25.2 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 7:10 PM EDT
sushicat

Just to think the sand , the beach is already full of oil. How can anything live in that area.? This just breaks my heart.

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#25.3 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 7:11 PM EDT
BK Lim

Sorry I did not see this one. Can you post a link?

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#25.4 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 10:17 PM EDT
sushicat

Sure, I am saving articles on my finger drive now: my PC freezes up ,acts up but I just thought that was my provider .

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#25.5 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 7:51 AM EDT
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molecule

This is a very awesome piece of work ... thank you!! I'm a civil engineer, and although I understand the ability of compressed gasses to store energy, I still feel I cannot sort out BP's role (and others) in this disaster, while I am as ignorant as I am on std drilling methods. My problem goes to intention. Given the expenses involved in setting up and drilling a well, it's just not profitable to be sloppy on stabilization. The cost of doing it once, is nothing compared to ... well, as we all can see. This is true in any engineering project, but especially so in infrastructure ones. I am vaguely familiar with drilling a water well ... a bore is drilled with a 10" bit and a 6" ID casing is lowered into the raw bore, to a depth where the well integrity can be assured, typically where drilling logs show bedrock. For a water well, the casing is a special ductile iron pipe, which comes in 27 ft sections. Each new section is welded onto the top of the casing as it is lowered down the hole from the top. At the desired casing length, the annulus between the casing and the bore is then backfilled with concrete. This seals the well and prevents contamination by surface water, etc. OK, so that's my crude understanding. For 30,000 ft of well, starting at 5,000 ft under water, obviously no one is welding casing topside, and suspending several miles of casing from a couple of pontoons under the rig. I heard BP's casing was 21 inch ID nominal, with 1" sidewalls. I'm imagining it comes in std lengths, say 50 ft, and each length is a 120° segment of the final circular section. These segments are somehow lowered into the existing casing, and snap fitted together just below the bottom of the existing casing, and some distance above the drill bit. If the drill bit is to be removed, it would have to have a collapsable design. Thus as the drill bit or bore auger (or ?) advances another 50 ft or so, an additional length of casing is lowered down inside the existing casing, and then somehow expanded and snapped (bolted, welded) onto the casing above. The annulus between the bore hole and new section of casing would then be "shot-creted" to seal the new section, and prevent exactly these kinds of absolutely 100% predictable foreseeable disasters from happening, especially where energy storing compressible gases are encountered. I just can't see any reason for BP to do it wrong, as if BO could make a profit or more profit from a well, by risking such stupidity -- unless it was intentional (emphasis). The cost of moving the Deepwater Horizon in place over the well site, a maximize profit mentality would demand the philosophy of do-it-once, keep it simple, and do it right. So, I'm left with the thought that this failure went beyond mere sloppy for profit motives. BPs failure to have someone on board, who sees the big picture, and has authority to demand quality work, on a large expense project like this, where the cost of "doing it right the first time" costs NOTHING by comparison to the knowable risks for being sloppy, tells me that this was intentional. There is no "let's be sloppy and make a quick profit" motive in any large civil engineering project, and I can't imagine it's not the same for deep water drilling. Can you point to a site which describes how deep water wells are drilled, and how the casing is installed? What is industry practice, even if it is evolving as technology improves? Again ... great article!!! PS. I'm all for peaceful uses for nuclear technology ... but I think your diagrams of the problem are the first to really cry out, let's not try any nuclear heroics on this one.

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Reply#26 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 9:24 PM EDT
Dowser

Can you point to a site which describes how deep water wells are drilled, and how the casing is installed?

No, but I can give you the benefit of 30 years of hydrogeologic experience, based on drilling water wells for cities and industries. You can usually find the information, per state, by visiting the state's geological surveys, and requesting records-- the information is there, it just must be 'dug out', so to speak.

Where are you located? In the Ohio River valley, wells are typically 100' to 120' deep. In the glaciated northern Indiana, northern Ohio, and northern Illinois areas, wells range from 80' to, (in the buried pre-glacial Teays valley), 550' deep. Along the Mississippi Embayment, from LA and MS, up to a point just above the confluence of the Mississippi River and the Ohio River, wells are usually about 300' deep. In the bedrock of KY, west of the Appalachia mountains, wells are usually from 100' to 300', based on the number of natural fractures that are intersected during drilling and the amount needed.

In eastern KY, wells drilled in the valleys are usually not more than 60', because there is a salt water interface from poorly closed oil and gas wells at about 70' depth, or less. In the mountains, the wells may be up to 400' in depth, depending on where the coal seam is located...

Uh, in other glaciated areas, Connecticut and New York, those wells are about 100' to 300'. In Denver, sand and gravel wells are about 60', bedrock wells are about 100' to 500' deep, depending on the type of bedrock and the amount of water needed. In the plains states, in order to intersect a deep sandstone aquifer, the wells may be 500' to 700' deep. There are a few shallow sand and gravel aquifers.

These depths are based only on my experience and may, of course, be very different in specific geologic locations.

The well casings that we used to complete large capacity water wells, drilled into sand and gravel aquifers, usually from 150 to 2000 gpm, were either of heavy duty PVC, (often used in the Mississippi Embayment, due to corrosion factors of the water), or ductile iron pipe, diameters ranging from 12" to 60". The casings, depending on the diameter of the well, 12" to 36", came in 20' sections and were welded. Larger casings, 48" to 60" in diameter usually came in 10' sections and were welded. PVC casings were screwed on and glued.

Well screens used in sand and gravel aquifers are made of stainless steel, wire wound screen with the openings sized according to the sieve analysis of the samples collected during test drilling. I can probably find a link to that, if you want. However, PVC screens were often, not always, used in the Mississippi Embayment aquifers, due to the highly corrosive properties of the water.

They also make irrigation screen, which is just plain steel, and there are still plenty of brass screens in use out and about, although it has fallen out of favor, due to corrosion factors.

High capacity water wells in bedrock aquifers are usually equipped with steel ductile pipe, cemented at least 10' into the bedrock, sometimes deeper, depending on the nature of the formation at the top, or the desire to case off undesirable water.

Does this help at all?

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#26.1 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
Dowser

molecule, I just read your question again, and please forgive me, but it was too late to delete my post. You want to know how "deep water" wells are drilled, not how deep are water wells drilled. Sorry!

LOL, I can't believe I was that stupid! BK Lim, please feel free to delete my posting as being of no value to the discussion! :-)

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#26.2 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 10:18 PM EDT
Man of Knowledge

molecule

Although I'm not supposed to promote my own articles, since you asked, these are some fairly simple and concise descriptions of the process of drilling a well in deep water and running casing from a floating drilling vessel if your interested.

http://cliffbourgeois.newsvine.com/_news/2010/04/23/4196590-deepwater-horizon-a-failure-of-well-control

http://cliffbourgeois.newsvine.com/_news/2010/04/26/4207104-deepwater-horizon-running-casing-offshore

I worked in the oil and gas exploration and production industry for 20 years with 10 years offshore on rigs and platforms in the Gulf of Mexico and 10 years as a technical trainer in drilling and production technology.

Many of your comments are quite astute with regard to the engineering associated with well planning on large projects. I have been involved in many large exploratory drilling and reservoir development projects in my time. You're talking hundreds of engineering hours put into the process before a rig is ever contracted. It requires seismic data acquisition, offshore lease acquisition, geological studies, RFPs for competitive bids on the purchase of drilling equipment, contracting with dozens of drilling services companies, and detailed well prognosis. Although there is pressure to save time and move forward when a rig costs 3/4 of a million dollars a day just to be on location, oil companies drill exploratory wells that wind up worthless all the time. That's why they are exploratory. Well control and safety is usually of the utmost importance. People screwed up on this well, but I personally don't believe the geological challenges encountered are all that uncommon in the deep water regions of the GOM nor do I believe that the damage is beyond repair. Frankly, there is no evidence of that yet.

This is a great article, but even the author admits it is a model based on incomplete information.

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#26.3 - Tue Aug 3, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
BK Lim

Man of Knowledge

Great of you to post your link here. You have got a marvellous description of the DWH rig operation. Thank you for your contribution. I should have checked out your post for the information I want.

If you don't mind I have a few questions about drilling; just wonder whether it would be better at your posting.

I have intentionally kept my illustration as a qualitative model, to illustrate outside the well.

The belief that the well casing has been damaged comes from anonymous BP officials quoted in news reports as well as a mention from Admiral Thad Allen, the National Incident Commander.

They indicated that drilling mud used in top kill was going off to the side into rock formations. This would mean a breach (or more than one) in the well casing. Allen referred to it as a possible "crack."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20006706-10391695.html

Would you know why they switch from bottom kill by the RW to static kill by pumping mud and cement through the top?

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#26.4 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 1:56 AM EDT
Man of Knowledge

I'm certainly not privy to the blow out response team's analysis so my comments are speculation. The current public plan is to do both the static kill and the relief well intersect. The relief wells have always been the most essential method of final resolution of the well killing process and would have been done whether or not any of the other mitigation methods were successful. I have also written an article on the technical challenges associated with the relief wells.

There are two valid reasons to do the static kill. The first is that it provides pressure relief to the surface control equipment on the blown well which has undergone incredible stresses. The rig lost its dynamic positioning capacity while still latched to the BOP, then sank while the riser was still attached. The riser was yanked over and buckled under the stress before it broke loose from the rig probably as a result of the fire weakening the support structure. Maintaining high pressure on the BOP was a point of significant concern as there is limited understanding of its condition. The second reason is that there is significant risk associated with penetrating the blown well with the relief well. Once you break through the casing and have fluid and pressure communication between the two wells you have the relief well exposed to the full bottom hole pressure condition and a U-tube path to unload mud from the relief well into the blown well. It is entirely possible to wind up with two blow outs instead of one. As they penetrate the blown well they must be prepared to pump mud until both wells are balanced and dead at the surface. It is difficult to predict how much volume of mud that might take under a worst case scenario such as the blown well having leaks at other points in the well column. The static kill fills the blown well up with mud in a more controlled way and essentially spots the kill fluid prior to intersecting the two wells.

With the blown well already full of mud when they intersect the two wells, they can move much more rapidly to the cementing operation with more control and safety. With a successful static kill, they can pump the cement from the relief well into the blown well and the area surrounding it while pushing the mud up the blown well and retrieving it back to the surface. Its a safer and cleaner operation.

#26.5 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 8:54 AM EDT
BK Lim

Thanks for your clear explanation. If you don't mind a few more questions:

1. I read some where that they pumped in the mud and the pressure was expected to rise up initially to 8,000 psi. Won't that increased the risk of forcing the mud into the formation through the leaks or was it intended to so that the mud will sort of seal off the formation permeability (by forming mud cakes, I think that is the term) ?

2. Why was Static Kill (claimed to be successful recently in the news) not carried out much earlier? We were told instead that the relief well was the ultimate kill method. Looks like they could have "static kill" it weeks ago and not wait for the relief wells?

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#26.6 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
Man of Knowledge

I'm sure the pressure did rise as your adding fluid volume to a sealed system, but that would only last a relatively short period of time as the hydrostatic pressure exerted by the mud column began to work against well pressure.

I believe the primary reason for the delay was the weather. They needed a reliable week of calm weather just in case there was a problem with the kill at the same time they were forced to abandon the well.

The relief well is also currently very close to the blown well. BP has stated in their technical briefing they wanted to get the last casing string in place and cemented before they began fooling with the "static kill."

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/BP_technical_audio_08022010..pdf

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#26.7 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
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BK Lim

Molecule

Given the expenses involved in setting up and drilling a well, it's just not profitable to be sloppy on stabilization.

Most had good intentions before the disaster. After the disaster they need to cover up for obvious reasons. The process is like this. After working the prospect for years, the exploration team decides on a few well locations (to get the best out of an expensive well), the exploration depth sends the locations to the survey dept. It is then parcel out to the geohazards contractor. The survey comes back after weeks or months depending on their work programme. Meanwhile they already had tenders or contractors lined up to install the platform or floating platforms pipelines etc to start work once the well is completed. It is easier with exploration wells.

Meanwhile the survey dept comes back with the survey report – that the location might have some potential problems – request to move. Now if the hazardous zone is a large and obvious one, chances are the exploration team would have seen it in their deep seismic sections and would have avoided it in the first place (before the high resolution stuff comes in). In most cases the shallow feature is not obvious in the exploration sections. Like some one trying to read without the reading glass. So now there is a problem – To move or not to move.

To move, the location had to be reviewed which means another round of delays all downstream. If they had already signed the contract, some penalties need to be paid. In 2008 when the price was an all time high of 140 USD per barrel, everyone was rushing. Imagine never having to ask but your increment goes up 20% every month. When oil was at 20 USD/barrel things move a little slower.

If the potential problem can be seen as a “bright amplitude anomalies” well and good. No one can deny that but like fools gold (pyrite) what is obvious may sometimes be pseudo hazards. Anyway, the hazards I am talking about which everyone misses are the unseen hazards that require meticulous analysis from all angles. The fallacy - we think we can image the subsurface accurately and therefore “what you see is what you get”. Like so many other cases, the fractures filled with gas (homogeneity set in) cannot be seen in the seismic data. If it can be seen then it ain’t there. Period. Will elaborate more in my later posting.

At the desired casing length, the annulus between the casing and the bore is then backfilled with concrete. This seals the well and prevents contamination by surface water, etc.

It is easier for the drillers to overcome abnormally high pressured gas formation or pockets deeper down than in the sub-rock formation immediately underlying the soil / sediment layers. Although the GWSF hazards cannot be seen directly on the seismic sections, they can be accurately predicted using some basic geological principles (shallow engineering geology as opposed to deep petro-geology)

The severity of the problems depends on local circumstances. As in Macondo case, moving south towards relief well C would be better. Incidentally, why did Relief well D stopped for some time? Anyone got info on these two relief wells. If I were to make a calculated guess just basing on the bathymetry alone (I don’t normally do this on my projects but I cannot resist to illustrate) RW C would have less problem than RW D. Of course WW A & B would be the worse of the lot.

Once you are on location, chances are you do not stop even with increasing problems. I am sure TransOcean Marianas would have the same problems had it continued. Luckily Hurriane Ida come and knocked it out by damaging the legs. When the problems mount incrementally, it is difficult to say stop. We are all humans and like to be optimistic. It is like fighting a loosing war. The generals would openly send their men to battle while they quietly sent their families away to seek refuge. BP directors secretly sold their shares and then buy back 50 to 100 shares a few days later to cover their tracks. What about Goldman Sachs? Was it coincidence too. Tony Hayward probably forgot the hardship and risks these offshore guys take, when he kept pushing for the well to be completed at all cost.

On a survey vessel, one of the safety poster in my cabin shows the picture of a woman and her daughter with the words : "Please bring my daddy safely home to us". The burden is on those who had to power to stop the work, to balance between orders from the office and the safety risks at hand. I saw one email from someone junior who wrote to his wife to be. "vessel very unsafe, the party chief warned us to look out for fire onboard, bec he was afraid the vessel may catch fire and sink". That vessel should not have even left port with more than 100 safety violations including malfunctioned fire alarm, fire fighting system, outdated and faulty fire smothering system etc. The vessel was later grounded after sailing for 3 months. It would have ended as a disaster with 40 crew onboard in 2 typhoons. That company was the largest international survey company with all the international safety and standards certificates and ISO registration. I understand that vessel is still be used worldwide by oil companies. My warnings to them were apparently unheeded.

Now you tell me, how did the company HSE allow the vessel to sail in the first place?

I just can't see any reason for BP to do it wrong, as if BO could make a profit or more profit from a well, by risking such stupidity -- unless it was intentional (emphasis).

BP did not intentionally do it wrong. They just did not stop and consider the red flags. They were rushing. Like a fish caught in a net, it cannot get out. Actually BP could have aborted the hole prior to the reservoir. Notice that BP is now very very careful with the RW in entering the WW. If they had practiced this type of caution then in all probability, this disaster need not have happened. That is my view point held as early as 2007 when the oil prices start to rise and the hectic pace of exploration increased.

Hope that answers your questions.

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Reply#27 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 12:13 AM EDT
Asgard

Although you scenario would be the best explantation for me, I raised the question in a Drill-Baby-Drill forum if the well was drilled through a zone how you have illustrated.

Here is the answer:

very interesting illustrations even for an old geologist. Thanks. Yep...drilling down the flank of a salt dome can be very tricky for a variety of reasons. And having surface seeps is not uncommon around salt domes. I just started drilling a very shallow well yesterday on a salt dome just north of Houston. OTOH many thousands of wells have been drilled like this in S. La. without any problem. Just a guess but there are probably a dozen or two like this drilling right now.

But to answer you main question: NO...those illustrations have nothing what so ever to do with the geology at the BP well. It was known early on that the well wasn't drilled on a salt dome. So, again, while drilling on a salt dome can be difficult at times, that fact has nothing at all to do with the cause of the BP blow out. In fact, it's so far from the truth to be truly comical.

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Reply#28 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
Briwnys

Interesting response.

Here is part of the abstract for a study titled 3-D multichannel seismic reflection study of variable-flux hydrocarbon seeps, continental slope, northern Gulf of Mexico by Ryan Douglas Thomas, published by Texas A&M University:

In the Mississippi Canyon area, the data suggest that the seep mound can be characterized as a mature high flux vent due to the extensive build-up of hard ground, evidence of gas hydrates and signs of active seepage and sediment flows. The mechanisms of formation are similar between the two study sites. Upwelling salt appears to have fractured the sub-surface leading to the formation of fault induced depressions. Mapping of geophysical indicators of hydrocarbons implies that hydrocarbon migration is occurring along bedding planes to the fault systems underlying the depressions. Here they appear to migrate vertically to the seafloor creating the topographic features and seafloor amplitude anomalies that characterize the seeps.

There are other basins in the world with salt, like off the Nile delta, off Brazil and Angola, but not to this extent. Along its leading edge, the Gulf salt has pushed up a ridge called the Sigsbee Escarpment, with a drop-off of 1,800 feet or more. Beyond the cliff are flat depths appropriately called the Abyssal Plain.

This is the very floor of the Gulf of Mexico. The salt glacier is carrying on its back river sediments that are also miles thick. This flowing mass is gradually pulling apart, creating fractures that allow huge blobs of salt to move upward.

Under enough heat and pressure, salt moves like a liquid. On top of all this are big canyons that were cut during the melting of the last Ice Age. Back then the sea level was low, because so much of the water was tied up in the ice, which covered the continent all the way down into what is now the Midwest.

Water from the melting ice poured over the edge of the continents that pulled apart to form the hole that became the Gulf of Mexico. The names of the canyons that were formed by this runoff have become a part of oil industry lingo -- Mississippi Canyon, Green Canyon, Keathley Canyon and Alaminos Canyon.

Mississippi Canyon, the granddaddy of them all, is about 2,500 feet deep from the top of its walls to the bottom, and anywhere from a few miles to 30 miles wide at its mouth. It is considerably west of the mouth of the river, in the vicinity of the Atchafalya, which is where the Mississippi poured out during the Ice Age.

Smaller features in the mud include the Dorsey Canyon, a half mile wide and 800 feet deep, surrounded by round, flat-topped bumps a few hundred feet tall, which are salt domes pushing up from below.

This complex topography is a challenge for companies, such as Intec Engineering of Houston, which is preparing to lay a pipeline on a narrow shelf between the edge of Dorsey Canyon and the wall of a salt dome. The deep Gulf also features fast-moving mudslides and even mud volcanoes, said Paul Kronfield, director of business development for Intec.

Alexander's
Gas & Oil Connections
News & Trends: North America
Volume 6, issue #17 - 11-09-2001

Beginning on page 167 of Geological Society Memoir No. 29: 3D Seismic Technology Application to the Exploration of Sedimentary Basins, please notice figures 5 and 6, which show the Mississippi Canyon between 3 salt system domes.

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#28.1 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
BK Lim

Briwnys

I like your answer. Thanks for your information links. Very helpful indeed.

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#28.2 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 2:10 PM EDT
BK Lim

Asgard,

Geohazards site surveys concentrate mainly on the first 1000m (3500 ft) below the sea-floor. I would not think this is the zone where most oil people care about. If you read some of my past publications, about 20% of this zone is hazardous with respect to GWSF. Like AIDS, the GWSF hazards don't immediately blow the well (just as HIV do not kill but weakens the immune system) but they do create the pesky extended gas-charged pressurised (EGCP) zone which counteracts with whatever the drillers do within the well. If the deeper formation do not present further problems, the EGCP will remain static and bleed over time. Drillers will not even notice. But then again if the targeted reservoirs are structural, then things can be a bit dicey. All these are logical possibilities without the need for actual site data. The EGCP zone is akin to a secondary pump responding to the fluctuation within the well.

If my illustrations are being compared to deep reservoir formations, then they are on the wrong track. There is no doubt a seabed escarpment exists even if it was not discernible from BP's bathy chart. The Macondo wells appear to be located on the worst possible place. In my work, I would have fought tooth and nail to move the location to friendlier location like Texaco Rigel. The drilling risk increased from Texaco Rigel location to BP's Macondo well A/B.

Without even looking at the seismic and geological data over the area, I decided to move out of my comfort zone and make a prediction that there is some underlying structural deformities (be it from salt intrusion or other intrusive, or massive faults) to have resulted in the escarpment which was not noticeable on the MBES bathymetry. It should not be the case with 3m binning MBES compilation unless single beam echo sounder (SBES) was used instead. I would like to think it is the later as I have seen several comparisons in my work.

I could have played it safe, waited and see how the disaster plays out. But I can't bear to see the environment damage (below seafloor) being accelerated to the point of irreparable damage. I did not come up with these concepts and models overnight. I had used these frameworks for years in the QC of site hazards reports by younger geohazards specialists. Alarming the world at large is last thing on my mind but my numerous emails to the mainstream media, blogs, BP, Gulf Rescue centres have not receive any acknowledgement at all. Maybe they are lost in the thousands of emails. My employers and friends at high places in the oil industry have not responded either. I understand their positions very well. Thus I turned to blogging as the avenue of the last resort.

With the top cap in place, BP should have continued to bleed the well (and collect the oil and flare the gas) until the relief well is ready to intercept. Like most, I thought this would be the most logical thing to do. By keeping it totally shut, after initially saying the test would only be for 24 hours - later extended to 48 hrs and later to leave it on permanently, confirmed my worst fears from the beginning that BP did not have the interests of the public and environment at heart.

The many red flags, choosing the worst possible location, the blatant disregard for details, the massive shares sell-off by the directors (and unknown number by top executives ?) after the 11th March incident and before the main blowout, the misinformation, the bogus PR, etc etc cannot be pure coincidences. It all points to a common obvious source.

The Detractors (for vested interests) will cherry pick isolated points to argue that all these happened independently of each other. While I can live with diversity in expert opinion, misguiding the general public in need of their technical expertise and guidance would tantamount to abetting the Crime of Mass Destruction in creating the Killing Field of the Gulf.

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#28.3 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
Asgard

Briwnys, Lim

thanks a lot for all that information.

And Lim, your work is definetly the most detailled and most plausible explanation of that disaster I have read so far, thank you very much.

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#28.4 - Wed Aug 4, 2010 5:42 PM EDT
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