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Arizona Gets a Lesson in Constitutional Law

News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:33 AM EDT
Article Source: The Nation
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The most reactionary conservatives, many of them clutching unread copies of U.S. Constitution, are already screaming about the decision of Arizona Federal Judge Susan Bolton to block immediate implementation of central provisions of the state's new anti-immigrant laws.

But all that Bolton did -- with a decision issued hours before the law was to go into effect -- was to assert one of the most basic principles of Constitutional law: that the federal government gets to set immigration policy.

This is not complicated stuff.

Article 1, Section 8 of the document gives Congress the authority "to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."

This is not some totalitarian scheme hatched by James Madison and George Mason back in 1787.

It was one of the most practical things the founders did.

Arizona Ruling Acts as a Warning to Other StatesThe New York TimesThu Jul 293
Ruling Against Arizona Is a Warning for Other StatesThe New York TimesWed Jul 287
Will federal judge rule soon on Arizona immigration law? - CNN.comCNNWed Jul 281
Why Judge Susan Bolton blocked key parts of Arizona's SB 1070Christian Science MonitorWed Jul 280
Judge blocks parts of Arizona immigration lawAssociated PressWed Jul 28270
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Carloz

That is not the statement of a "judicial activist."

That is a restatement of basic premises with regard to the Constitution.

What this adds up to is a conclusion that Judge Bolton is a strict constructionist.

You might even call her a conservative.

You might even call her a true Conservative. Judge Bolton has vindicated the Obama administration's move, and indicated that in her legal opinion it will most likely to win the argument. So, appeal way Gov. Brewer, make everyone waste money on a lost cause, join your fellow Republican John McCain in stirring up anger, bitterness and fear so that you can win a few more precious votes -- do all of that, instead of encouraging everyone to follow the President's call to work together on badly needed immigration reform.

  • 7 votes
#1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:41 AM EDT
Sebbydad

SB1070 was not designed to do anything but provide the governor something to run on to attempt to be elected to the office she inherited.

  • 6 votes
#2 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:05 AM EDT
Carloz

Right, Sebbydad, and I'd bet she was really actually relieved at the judge's actions because it gives her an opportunity to stoke the flames some more between now and the election.

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:09 AM EDT
Sebbydad

especially since it will detract from the fact she actually hasn't done anything that has benefited the state since she took the office.

  • 5 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:12 AM EDT
btco

She has bankrupted the state, along with state Republicans....

The legislature slashed the budget for the Department of Revenue, which required the agency to fire hundreds of state auditors and tax collectors; lawmakers boasted that these measures saved $25 million, but a top official in the department estimated that the state would miss out on $174 million in tax collections as a result.........

All totaled, the cuts amounted to roughly $1 billion, which came on top of a similar amount that had been slashed the previous year. These cuts, in combination with the sale of state assets (which raised more than $700 million) and the securitization of the lottery, plugged a massive hole in next year's budget. But the deficit for 2011 is already projected to be at least $1 billion and possibly double that, on a total budget of only $9 billion. The situation will only worsen from there, as federal stimulus money dries up and the state runs out of short-term sources of cash. "Could we cut our way out of it mathematically?" Dennis Hoffman, an economist who has forecast revenue for Arizona governors since 1983, mused when I asked him about the crisis. "Anything is possible on paper, but for practical purposes it can't be done, unless you want to start releasing prisoners, shutting down universities, and eliminating extracurricular activities in the schools. We've already had a $2 billion haircut over the past two years. Try another $2 billion and see what the state looks like."

This is what Tea Party rule looks like and it ain't a pretty picture.

  • 7 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:28 AM EDT
StevG-144

If you allow every state to write its own immigration law, you would have fifty different laws, all fighting for their personal believes, fair or unfair, for the law or against the law. One federal law, is the way policy should go down, and be THE law of the land. States rights or laws, can never exceed the federal governments, rights or laws.

  • 4 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:10 AM EDT
Door King

Did you see the concentration camps they built in Arizona to house the "illegals?"

  • 3 votes
#3 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:32 AM EDT
Carloz

No, I haven't, Door King. Do you have any links?

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:36 AM EDT
Door King

I saw them on CNN. Barbed wire, tents and bunks. That's the trouble with this whole hate Mexicans crap. The last country who deported millions was?

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:16 PM EDT
rls8r

I agree with Judge Bolton's finding - but apparently for different reasons than the author of the seeded document. I'm not a lawyer - which will be obvious when I say that I don't believe that the issue is with Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution regarding Naturalization. To my mind - Arizona wasn't trying to develop new Naturalization policies - they were trying to find a way to identify people who were not Naturalized (and were not in the process of becoming so).

My problem with the Arizona law wasn't the effect that it would have had on those in the U.S. illegally - it was that it denied rights to those that are in the U.S. legally (that is, to citizens and legal aliens).

Almost all of the discussons I've heard or read about this issue focus on undocumented (or 'illegal') aliens. Right-wingers accuse those who oppose the Arizona law of wanting to ignore their illegal status. I don't believe that's true, and I'm glad that Judge Bolton focused on the rights of citizens that will be lost if the law is implemented as it is written, rather than on what illegal residents will enjoy if the law is not implemented.

  • 5 votes
#4 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:57 AM EDT
Door King

It's not Arizona's business to know who is naturalized and who is not.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:16 PM EDT
Mary-471639

I don't understand why Jan Brewer and her connections to (CCA) Corrections Corporation of America, are not receiving more media attention, it sure has enlightened me as to her motives with SB1070.

Corrections Corporation of America, or CCA, holds the federal contract to house detainees in Arizona. The company currently bills the state $11 million per month. Two of Brewer’s top advisers have connections to CCA.

Paul Senseman is the governor’s deputy chief of staff. He is also a former lobbyist for CCA. His wife is listed as a current lobbyist for the company.

Chuck Coughlin is one of the governor’s policy advisers and her campaign chairman. Coughlin’s company, HighGround Public Affairs Consultants, currently lobbies for CCA. Corrections Corporation of America, or CCA, holds the federal contract to house detainees in Arizona.

I have to say the phrase, "follow the money" rings true with Brewer and SB1070. There would be an enormous amount of money to be made by CCA to house the detainees (wether legal or not) at the expense of the state.

The tourist industry in AZ is down 10% because of her use of fearmongering (crime is actually down in AZ) to assist in implementing SB1070. State tax revenues will decrease with state expenditures increasing as a result of 1070. Economically speaking, it sounds like a lose, lose situation. In retrospect the state may find amnesty would have been a financially feasable alternative or deal with illegal immigration by going after their employers.

Brewer has been very successful at redirecting any unhappiness or anger of the citizens of AZ towards the illegal immigrants, with a very hefty price tag for the state, which her staff will profit from.

  • 8 votes
#5 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:16 AM EDT
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Mary-471639

Hi Carloz

Ooops, my bad, here is a link. The story has been out since May, only one local AZ TV station picked it up and has been beating the drum.

Hotel Owners: AZ Politicians Scare Tourists
Private Prisons Might Gain From New Immigration Law
http://www.kpho.com/news/24362212/detail.html

This article also provides info on CCA.

  • 5 votes
#5.1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:04 AM EDT
Carloz

Thanks, Mary.

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:24 AM EDT
Door King

Arizona give you an idea about state's rights. Without the federal power leveling everything, and what's left of our bill of rights we'd deteriorate into a collection of petty theocracies and dictatorships. An effing concentration camp was built in Arizona to hold all the illegals they expected to pick up in sweeps the day the law took effect.

  • 2 votes
#6 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:46 AM EDT
JAVE

The Federal government argues the States can not write laws regarding a Federal responsibility. Does that only hold true only for immigration or also similar matters such as civil rights, environmental law and gun control? How is it decided what issues are strictly for Federal law and which issues can be legislated and enforced by both?

Another issue is, can the States enforce laws on matters they are unable to legislate?

#7 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:42 AM EDT
jmorris

The Constitution is a good place to start.

That's what Judge Bolton used.

  • 5 votes
#7.1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
rls8r

JAVE -

With regard to your first question - listen to jmorris - I think he's onto something there.

With regard to your second question - it strikes me as an odd one. If a state cannot legislate a law with regard to a particular matter, there isn't a law to enforce. So, your question becomes somewhat metaphysical - like the 'tree falling in the forest' or the 'sound of one hand clapping' questions.

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:57 AM EDT
jmorris

Another issue is, can the States enforce laws on matters they are unable to legislate?

Of course they do it all the time. In the specific case of Federal immigration law the Federal government has had a program for quite some time where local agencies can be recognized by the Federal Government to enforce Federal Immigration Laws, "Sheriff Joe" has been participating for long time in this program, that's how he can arrest illegals, he is doing it *with* the permission of the Federal Government and in junction with ICE. Any law enforcement agency can apply to participate in this program.

What Arizona wants to do is cut the Feds out entirely and create and enforce immigration laws on their own. And it really doesn't matter how "close" the Arizona law is to the Federal Law, per the Constitution, immigration law is reserved for the Federal, *not* the States.

  • 4 votes
#7.3 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
rls8r

jmorris -

Of course, you're right again about the ability of states to enforce laws that the feds enact.

I do still have a conceptual problem with the apparent conflict that people point out between what Arizona is trying to do and federal immigration law. I'm having trouble interpreting Arizona's law as 'immigration' law. It seems to me that they are not proposing to allow immigration under circumstances that the feds have prohibited; and they're not prohibiting immigration under conditions that the feds have said are allowable. They are not creating a new 'Naturalization' process; nor are they keeping foreign nationals from following the federal Naturalization process that is currently in place. It seems to me that the basis of the Arizona law is closer to what I'd consider to be a 'tresspassing' law.

Now - having said that, I still agree with Judge Bolton's ruling - because of the rationale she used to come to her conclusion. While I think that Arizona has a legitimate right (and responsibility) to find and remove persons who are in the U.S. illegally - I disagree with how they propose to do it.

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
Sam Bane

There is absolutely nothing relating to the constitution is this "Judges" decisions. She is a Liberal activist and acted on the directions of Lackey Eric Holder. Now we go to the district court in San Franccisco which is another extreme liberal group. Then to the Supreme court where Obama has already seeded it with his bunch of exremists. Nothing short of removing Obama from office will give this situation the correct actions to preserve our Nation. Take that to be racist if you want. However, if you just watched Obama deliver his rant to the "Urban League" which is one of the most radical racist organizations in America, then you will know what racism is.

  • 1 vote
#8 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
rls8r

Bolton was nominated to the United States District Court for the District of Arizona on the recommendation of U.S. Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ), currently the Senate Minority Whip. She was confirmed to the Court by the U.S. Senate on October 3, 2000 by unanimous consent. In 2000 the Republicans controlled the Senate 55 to 45.

That doesn't seem to me to be something that I'd expect to find in the resume of a 'liberal activist'.

  • 7 votes
#8.1 - Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
Door King

That was beautiful.

  • 2 votes
#9 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:19 PM EDT
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