"I ask you for forgiveness." Should gays, lesbians and others accept Carl Paladino's apology?

Can you say, "Whore!" Pal@!$%#o is sorry only because of the following:

Poll.................Date..................Cuomo (D)..................Paladino (R).....................Spread

RCP Average..10/1 - 10/7...........55.2...........................36.4........................Cuomo +18.8

If he were ahead, he be saying even nastier @!$%# and telling gays to @!$%# off. Geeze - where does this assniggers get off?

When something is in Paladino's words that is missing, namely a sincere apology from a man who is seriously rethinking his morality, I would be more inclined to accept an apology when an actual apology is given. An abusive disgusting mindset does not usually change quite that easily. And I have no doubt Paladino's abusive mindset is still quite intact.

A M A Z I N G what Paladino will say to get a vote.

I guarantee if Paladino, Angle, Bachmann, Palin, O'Donnell or Joe Miller took last week's world affairs quiz...they would FLUNK.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/08/gps.quiz/index.html

Yeeeah, I don't think "Sorry, but it's actually no big deal, and the Jews told me to do it anyway," is any sort of apology.

Carloz, for the record, his speech WAS written by Rabbi Yehudah Levin. Now Levin is angry at Paladino for "stabbing him in the back" and not reading the speech as written.

Rabbi Levin is not someone to cozy up to if you do not want to be thought of as a bigot. Levin is extremely anti-gay and anti-abortion...and very vocal about it.

Ya think?

http://www.rabbilevin.com/2010/10/cbs-interview-with-rabbi-levin-re.html

Well, its obvious he doesn't mean the apology, he knows his comments screwed him in the elections.

Thanks for the link, Rainkiss. I've known about Levin for a long time, unfortunately. His misogyny is a particular sore point with me. His homophobia isn't much better, of course. Some of the words he's had for the gay community are perverted, licentious, deviant, and the icing on the cake? That raping men is more horrific and evil than raping women. (if you want to see a video where he makes these statements in particular, you can go to youtube and type in "the threat of gay marriage by Rabbi Levin". It's in two parts. (I'm having trouble copying and pasting links on this computer or I'd leave a link).

In my opinion, though Paladino is NOT absolved in any manner, Levin deserves to share in Paladino's condemnation.

Always happy to share. Didn't want to be the ONLY one poking my eardrums out with an icepick after that garbage. :(

Hmmm let me put this in the most poetic and eloquent prose possible...... NOPE!

The raw bigotry I can forgive. What I cannot abide is that the man never sent me any of his porn. That, sir, is unforgivable.

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phuck you Carl. Twice.

Actually Carloz...................one of your choices should have been HE77 NO!!! :-)

Giving a phony apology to an outrageous insult is EVEN MORE INSULTING.

Just shut up, Paladino. That's yer fukin' apology. SHADDAP ALREADY!

I can't wait till he pops off about the Jews thanks to the Levin thing.. That'll be some good theater.

What a massive douchebag. Good job, GOP!

Does he want their forgiveness...or their votes?

Interesting poll results and comments. Meanwhile, the homosexual community continues to seek compassion and understanding; evidently it's a one-way street.

And what exactly in this situation did we do that requires apology? This person who wishes to represent us in politics denounced us, of course he should apologise. In this case, yes, it is a one way street. The man was out of line and out of touch.

Meanwhile, the homosexual community continues to seek compassion and understanding; evidently it's a one-way street.

The problem, in this case, IS understanding. Many are understanding that he's a two-faced bigot trying to cover his tracks and win over voters.

First of all why is he apologizing? To win their votes?!

He is a hypocrit, I would never and try to never judge anyone, but on the NV that is hard not to do, but I would never apologize for something I feel passionate about.

Should gays, lesbians and others accept Carl Paladino's apology?

HELL no.

So it's fine to seek understanding and compassion, while not giving it to others?

So it's fine to seek understanding and compassion, while not giving it to others?

And how are gays are "not giving [understanding and compassion] to others"?

I hope you're not trying to pass off "they're not totally understanding of absolutely everyone, so f--- 'em" as a legitimate argument.

I hope you're not trying to pass off "they're not totally understanding of absolutely everyone, so f--- 'em" as a legitimate argument.

I think that's the "you complain when we legislate to prevent you from having the same civil rights WE do because it's not understanding and compassion, but by complaining you're not showing compassion toward our bigotry!" argument.

So it's fine to seek understanding and compassion, while not giving it to others?

That's hilarious.

apologized back in 2004 for saying he apologized to women

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Egads, never type, answer the phone and a question at the same time!!

He apologized for what his comments....

*clarification!!*

RACHELNever accept an apology from a person running for office before the votes are counted

I figured after the first press conference, a waiter said to him, hey dumb a$$, do you know how many of us gays, and Lesbians, there are in this state, you screwed up big time.

Oh yeah..his words have probably lost him a big section of Rochester, Syracuse & NYC!

RACHEL Oh yeah...

It won't be long he will be putting his waiting week in, oh, thats right, those guys don't like unemployment

I think it would be very foolish for gays to accept his apology and for them to trust him.

Carloz, the majority of gays vote a straight Democratic ticket no matter who the candidates are. Same with the pro-choice crowd. Two wedge issues that continue to divide the electorate. Of course blacks also vote the straight democratic ticket. It will do Republicans no good to court these voters.

Bubba, you are forgetting about Log Cabin republicans And independents.

Carloz, the majority of gays vote a straight Democratic ticket no matter who the candidates are

Even if the majority does vote democrat that means there is a minority of gays who vote repubulican and that is why Carl Paladino is backtracking. He knows he going to lose that percentage of the vote plus the vote of people who support gays. If gays, and those who support gays and gay issues were so insignifant to the republican vote, he wouldn't feel the need to back pedal and apologize now.

The gay issue is a wedge just like abortion.

Funny how the "wedge issues" are ones that really are nobody's business but the people involved, isn't it?

Carloz there are no studies on gay voting trends that I am aware of. My gay friends don't like Republicans. I guess we could study how San Francisco voted in the last Presidential election. Wouldn't that be an indicator?

"An indicator of how people in SF vote."

Wouldn't SF be a nice random sample of how gay people vote. Seriously, Carloz, do you have any gay friends who have ever voted Republican?

Wouldn't SF be a nice random sample of how gay people vote.

Yeah, that whole 15.4% of the population. Overwhelming, for sure.

Didn't you know, Jack? SF is populated ENTIRELY by homosexuals. Not a single straight person is permitted within city limits without a gay escort. The adoption agencies work overtime to bring in enough kids to fill the schools. It's a PERFECT example of how the "gay vote" would run.

/rolleyes

Not a single straight person is permitted within city limits without a gay escort.

So that's what the tolls are paying for.

So folks - you need to have a better understanding who you are dialoguing with. Ol' Bubba made my ignore list (one of the very few) with this gem:

Perhaps it would be more responsible to have women spayed instead of killing their offspring.

Good luck.

Yeesh. Just yeesh.

Rainkiss, I just coughed up coffee at that comment...LOL.

Thank you, db, nice to be appreciated. :D

Anytime someone asks for forgiveness over something said, it should be given

Let's clarify that shall we? One needs to be sincere and really mean it. This asshat fails on both. He isn't sorry. He is sorry his stupid ass words cost him votes. Here's my prediction. The next set of poll numbers will show him somewhere near whale@!$%# in the Mariana trench. Sounds like a good place for hime to go actually At least he would be with his own kind.

Except if is a cheating ex - husband...then no forgivness OK? A potty mouth maybe...if it is after election...and he has lost....and he does community work first......

They call me hard hearted Hanna the Vamp of Savannah....(not)......

Forgive, but don't trust. When you can't trust a man at his word, you can't trust the man.

No, you aren't Jeff...and, I know it! ;-)

[blushes] Is my contempt for this guy that obvious? I'm losing my touch for subtlety I'm afraid.

Nahhhh! His GAY Nephew cannot even go back into the office, since he is now "outed".....

...seriously though; he probably WAS the only person with sense enough to actually tell Paladino how badly he had @!$%#ed-up!!