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The FBI Has Been Violating Your Liberties in Ways That May Shock You

News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:32 AM EST
Article Source: AlterNet.org
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Over the last decade, the FBI has been found to violate the Constitution countless times under the guise of the Patriot Act, including a 2007 scandal that led FBI head Robert Mueller to publicly apologize for the preponderance of security abuses, misconduct and violation of civil liberties on his watch. We've known since its enactment in 2001 that the Patriot Act, with its gross expansion of law enforcement power and murky reporting requirements, was just a rulebook waiting to be spoiled.

But according to a new report released by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), the FBI's violations go far beyond what has been reported.

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McSpocky

First, the numbers: EFF found that, since 9/11, the FBI has been responsible for up to 40,000 violations. Most often, said violations included bucking guidelines for internal oversight, abusing the National Security Letters and trampling on the Fourth Amendment. This, in tandem with the IOB’s weakened capacity for oversight under President George W. Bush, has resulted in nothing short of disaster. In 2008, Bush revoked the IOB’s right to refer violations to the Attorney General, and eliminated the agency’s requirement to report quarterly to the IOB. As EFF found, "The FBI’s disregard for its own internal oversight requirements and the Bureau’s failure to timely report violations to the IOB undermined the safeguards established to protect civil liberties violations from occurring." While the Obama administration restored a few of those changes, it still has not provided the proper transparency needed for a true citizen-protective oversight board or fully disclosed its makeup.

  • 7 votes
#1 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:34 AM EST
James Essayist

The Hoover Years: The Sequel. (Just what we needed.)

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 6:52 AM EST
ffeineandsugar

"But...but...we're doing it because we're Damn Good Patriots!!" And they really do think that way - if you are a law-abiding citizen, you have nothing to hide, and therefore nothing to fear. The internal culture at the FBI is not exactly one that mirrors the culture of the rest of the nation. I find it ironic that the one FBI building that has been most notably attacked in this nation was attacked in the city where the FBI agents themselves would represent their community. What does that imply?

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 7:12 AM EST
HeelsnHairMetal

The Patriot Act is an affront to the Constitution that needs to be repealed. The name itself is sickening, because stripping the rights of Americans is in no way "patriotic".

What our government has done in the name of "security" is nothing short of disgusting, and the fact that so many Americans simply do not care is even more so. They reason "it doesnt matter if you have nothing to hide", that it until they themselves are snatched up and have their freedoms taken away.

  • 10 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 7:56 AM EST
oneofmany

This, for me, is one of the more disappointing failures of the Obama administration. IMO there is no way the USA PATRIOT Act should have not be repealed by now.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:43 AM EST
Jorge-2191028

Patriot act was passed by DEM controlled Senate..

why would dem controlled congress repeal it?

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:12 AM EST
huskergal

I agree with oneofmany. The act should be repealed. I have suspected this spying for a long time, especially when my computer makes these screeching ginding noises. It doesn't make one feel any better when one checks the security of the computer to find that someone has taken over a supervisor and changed the password. We do not want to live in the Soviet United States so the Patriot Act must be repealed and the FBI must be reigned in. No revolution, just common sense.

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:13 AM EST
huskergal

Jorge,

Patriot act was passed by DEM controlled Senate..

The USA PATRIOT Act (commonly known as the "Patriot Act") is an Act of the U.S. Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT

The Democrats were not the majority party in 2001 and have not controlled either house of Congress until Jan., 2007. answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090304151028AAesZjF.

The 9/11/01 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington restored national security issues to the forefront of American politics. In response, President George W. Bush's decision to confront terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq divided the nation along prowar and antiwar lines and further intensified the national party battle. Close national elections between ideologically distinct parties give American politics its harsh tones and its extraordinarily high stakes, thus magnifying the difficulties of governing the world's only superpower.

Republicans maintained their majority in the House of Representatives by the identical close margin of 53 percent to 47 percent. They did improve their majority in the Senate, emerging after the election with a lead of fifty-five to forty-five seats. Even in the Senate, however, Republicans lacked the sixty votes needed to break any determined Democratic filibuster. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/dividedamerica.htm

A little research goes a long way if one is to make an accurate statement.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:28 AM EST
danp1220

Yes, a little research does go a long way, so I did some. The 107th Congress began Jan. 3, 2001, with a 50-50 split in the Senate. On June 6th Senator Jim Jeffords (R) announced that he was becoming an independant and that he would vote with the Democrats. So, the dems did have the majority when the Patriot Act was passed Oct. 24, 2001. The vote was 98 for, 1 against. Tom Daschle was the Majority Leader.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:14 AM EST
Jorge-2191028

Husker gall

a little research does go a long way

Dems controlled the senate when the Patriot act was passed...just like they controled the senate when the IRAQ war was voted on.

DEM Senator TOM DASCHLE was the majority leader.

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:42 AM EST
huskergal

Well, I'll have to stand corrected.

When the 107th Congress commenced on January 3, 2001, the Senate was evenly divided—that is, there were 50 Democrats and 50 Republicans. Outgoing Vice PresidentAl Gore acted in his constitutional capacity as ex officioPresident of the Senate, and used his tie-breaking vote to give the Democrats the majority in that chamber. For the next two weeks, Daschle served as Senate Majority Leader. Then, upon the commencement of the Bush administration on January 20, 2001, Dick Cheney became President of the Senate, thereby returning Democrats to the minority in that body; Daschle reverted to the position of Senate Minority Leader. However, on June 6, 2001, Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont announced in that he was leaving the Senate Republican caucus to become an independent and to caucus with Democrats;[14] this once again returned control of the body to the Democrats and Daschle again became Majority Leader. Democratic losses in the November 2002 elections returned the party to the minority in the Senate in January 2003 and Daschle once more reverted to being Minority Leader.

Little hard to tell within this short time frame who was what, when. Here is the roll call and the votes. 98 voted in favor.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00313

Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carnahan (D-MO), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Cleland (D-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corzine (D-NJ), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea

Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Yea
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchinson (R-AR), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea

Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Miller (D-GA), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thompson (R-TN), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:21 PM EST
huskergal

Patriot act was passed by DEM controlled Senate..

Still wrong Jorge. Look again, Both Parties voted in the Patriot Act. That's a tally of 50 Republicans, 47 Democrats and 1 Independant. 98 Votes Majority Republican.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:31 PM EST
danp1220

I count 49 R yea, 48 D yea, 1 I (actually D) yea, 1 D nay, 1 D no vote.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 7:07 PM EST
huskergal

The are are 50 Senators. So you must have missed one for there were 98 yea votes 2 nay. It's okay either way both parties voted for the Patriot Bill. Not surprising at the speed this passed after 9/11 That's the date of the attack and the bill was signed 10/26. 46 days to come up with a bill to curtail American freedoms.

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 4:11 AM EST
McSpocky

If you look at the timing of the bill, everyone was in a state of panic. If you didn't vote for the bill, you would have been labeled a traitor. That is no excuse for the blatant disregard for laws that occurred by government agencies implementing it though. It is time the patriot act be done away with, and I hope there are people who will push for that.

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 7:48 AM EST
Dr Know

They did all kinds of things "to do something...anything".

They should have been looking at all the baggage scanners that had the xray portion disconnected from power. Instead they took finger nail clippers out of airports...

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 3:47 PM EST
Friedwatermellon

I get this message when I'm on Newsvine I wonder if it

has to do with Newsvine or the FBI or both.

The message says: To help protect your security, Internet Explorer blocked this site from downloading files to your computer.Click here for options.

  • 4 votes
#2 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:16 AM EST
Friedwatermellon

A few hours after my above post the Messages stopped.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 11:49 AM EST
McSpocky

That is a built in security feature in Internet Exploder... Hard to tell what it was blocking. probably an ad...

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:30 PM EST
Friedwatermellon

That is a built in security feature in Internet Exploder... Hard to tell what it was blocking. probably an ad...

It did say from "this site" and the site I was on was Newsvine.. It has never appeared before. Strange

  • 1 vote
#2.3 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 8:20 AM EST
McSpocky

I've experienced that message from many sites.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 8:46 AM EST
Friedwatermellon

I have to, but this was the first time from Newsvine and where it said to protect your security.

Most other times it asks me if I would allow pop ups.

  • 1 vote
#2.5 - Fri Feb 4, 2011 9:09 AM EST
oneofmany

Alphabet soup anyone?

...the CIA, NSA, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Justice, Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and Department of State...

ummm seriously....does this scare anyone else as much as it does me?

Who watches the watchmen?

  • 5 votes
#3 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:39 AM EST
HeelsnHairMetal

The only agency I trust is NCIS, and thats only when investigations are led by Leroy Jethro Gibbs.

I kid, I kid. Seriously, nobody is watching them. Thats why they get away with BS like they do.

  • 9 votes
#3.1 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:52 AM EST
robert-664372

Did anyone here honestly believe during the height of the anti Patriot Act anti President Bush rhetoric, that the Democrats were really going to repeal the Patriot Act, or Homeland Security for that matter, when they came to power?

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:37 AM EST
daMamma

Did anyone here honestly believe....

Hoped, but did not believe it would happen. No one, No one gives up power once obtained.

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 12:58 PM EST
robert-664372

that's right Mamma, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and those ravel rousers making all the noise about our deteriorating civil rights a few years ago have become eerily silent under this administration.

#3.4 - Sun Feb 6, 2011 6:03 PM EST
lee_atwater

The federal government already has the technology to watch you through your television screen. With the new digital signal and your imported TV. With the built in eye you can't see. And one day that technology will be sent to your local sheriffs office as well. Feel free not to believe me.

  • 3 votes
#4 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:06 AM EST
Friedwatermellon

They already have programs that can use an unsuspecting persons camera lens in their computer to see whats going on in your home.

I have no doubt the new TV's have camera lenses built in where you can't see them.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:36 AM EST
oneofmany

wow...

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:58 AM EST
Don't you people have jobs?

Double wow.

Tin foil is bad for your hair...

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 2:43 PM EST
lee_atwater

Well then take your tin foil off !!!

  • 4 votes
#4.4 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:28 PM EST
ffeineandsugar

"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself--anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face...; was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime..."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 5

How far away are we, citizens?

  • 4 votes
#4.5 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:54 PM EST
McSpocky

I remember something about where there was a hair or thread on a book that he had to make sure was in exactly the same place when he finished with it each time? It was a long time ago that I read it...

Anyway, big brother seems here to stay. :(

  • 3 votes
#4.6 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 8:07 PM EST
HeelsnHairMetal

How far away are we, citizens?

Citizens? We are not party members. We are the PROLES!

  • 3 votes
#4.7 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 9:58 PM EST
McSpocky

LOL

  • 3 votes
#4.8 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:16 PM EST
ChuckGreg

The government doesn't need an act to violate citizens rights. A few years before the Patriot Act I was part of a multi-agency task force going for drug runners. We were using a special military piece of kit and was the reason we were invited to the party. I was very surprised to see certain government weenies tracking American citizens. As military guys (I was in charge) we follow rules and can't track Americans. I complained and took my toys home.

  • 3 votes
#5 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:31 AM EST
jbird

We can do our small part to reverse the trend, by threatening to change banks, the minute we find out that they cooperate in illegally turning over client information. The smaller "small town feel" banks such as Republic or 5/3, tend to be better at their business anyway.

  • 3 votes
#6 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:36 AM EST
Dr Know

This has been so for a long time. They did not need the Patriot Act. If it fails to pass, there will be little difference.

  • 2 votes
#7 - Thu Feb 3, 2011 10:59 PM EST
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