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Have Republicans Abandoned Conservative Values?

News Type: Opinion — Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
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By Que2646
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The truth is that conservation and environmental stewardship are core conservative values.

It is hard to imagine how someone can be considered a Conservative if they don't want to conserve the most important thing we have, the environment. They claim that they actually do, but not just now, not in that way, or not if it might cost a little. They also try to perpetuate the myth that conservation and environmental protection are liberal causes to justify their opposition. The truth is that conservation and environmental stewardship are core conservative values. (1)

It is even harder to imagine why the Republican Party would embrace the ideals and arguments of those non-conservationists. Our past Republican leaders have been strong advocates for environmental stewardship and they were responsible for enacting some of our most significant environmental legislation. (2)

Theodore Roosevelt believed that conservation was essential for keeping America strong and he was responsible for the permanent preservation of many of the unique natural resources of the United States. As he said, "To waste, to destroy, our natural resources … will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by right to hand down to them."

Richard Nixon enacted many of the nation's landmark environmental laws, which he saw as a means of unifying the nation. The EPA was created under Nixon's leadership. "Clean air, clean water, open spaces -- these should once again be the birthright of every American." "...we must strike a balance so that the protection of our irreplaceable heritage becomes as important as its use. The price of economic growth need not and will not be deterioration in the quality of our lives and our surroundings."

Barry Goldwater, dubbed "Mr. Conservative", was a gifted photographer who produced beautiful pictures illustrating his beloved Arizona landscape. He put his finger on it when he said : "While I am a great believer in the free enterprise system and all that it entails, I am an even stronger believer in the right of our people to live in a clean and pollution-free environment."

Ronald Reagan signed 43 bills preserving a total of 10.6 million acres of wilderness. He was instrumental in U.S. ratification of the Montreal Protocol -- which dramatically reduced depletion of the upper atmosphere's protective ozone layer. He developed a cap-and–trade system that prevented our acid rain form blowing into Canada that cost much less than even the government estimated. As he communicated: "If we've learned any lessons during the past few decades, perhaps the most important is that preservation of our environment is not a partisan challenge; it's common sense. Our physical health, our social happiness, and our economic well-being will be sustained only by all of us working in partnership as thoughtful, effective stewards of our natural resources." "I'm proud of having been one of the first to recognize that states and the federal government have a duty to protect our natural resources from the damaging effects of pollution that can accompany industrial development."

John McCain during his 2008 presidential campaign, proposed a pragmatic national energy policy based upon good stewardship, good science, and reasonableness. He cosponsored cap-and-trade bills in the Senate in 2003, 2005, and 2007 and, as he said then, "A cap-and-trade policy will send a signal that will be heard and welcomed all across the American economy. And the highest rewards will go to those who make the smartest, safest, most responsible choices." And he was right. Having to pay the true cost of fossil fuel use is fair and would create incentives for renewable energy and energy efficiency.

Cap-and-trade was once considered to be the market solution to reducing carbon emissions. When popular, a number of key Republicans, such as Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) went on record as endorsing the policy. Even Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), only two years ago, while supporting a version of a cap-and-trade bill in the Massachusetts legislature said:"Reducing carbon dioxide emission in Massachusetts has long been a priority of mine. Passing this legislation is an important step … towards improving our environment." (3)

But somewhere amid lobbying, big donations from power companies, and criticisms from so called conservatives who don't really want to conserve much, the Republicans have backed off the cap-and-trade concept. They are now claiming it would cost each U.S. household $3,100 a year, a cost that has great sticker shock but is totally inaccurate. Dr. John Reilly, the MIT economist whose work was used to get that number, has criticized Republicans for distorting his work. (4) The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the cost of the cap-and-trade program in 2020 would average about $175 per household (5) and estimates are that associated savings would reduce the federal deficit by about $19 billion over the next decade. (6). A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences details the high economic costs of inadequate environmental legislation, such as reduced streamflow, rainfall, and crop yields (7). Estimates by the World's top economists such as Britain's Nicholas Stern (8) are that right now it would cost about 2% of the worlds GDP to mitigate environmental damage – but if delayed, that amount could rise to 20% or more of the world's GDP by 2050 and put us at risk of an environmental catastrophe.

The misinformation, the damage to the environment, and waste that would be caused by not acting should alarm traditional Republicans. However, according to the Republicans for Environmental Protection, the GOP establishment has lost sight of its "core conservative values, largely due to the influence of corporate lobbies and political leaders beholden to them for campaign support, and in opposition of the willingness of populist Democrats to embrace environmental protection. The result has been a polarizing battle that is not at all about the advance of conservative principles, but rather the advance of special interest political agendas." (1)

(1) http://www.rep.org/index.html Republicans concerned about the environment may wish to check out this Republicans for Environmental Protection website.
(2) The quotes below came from http://www.conservamerica.org/quotes.html
(3) http://www.grist.org/article/2010-06-29-remember-when-republicans-liked-cap-and-trade/
(4) http://flavcountry.blogspot.com/2009/05/mit-economist-john-reilly-calls.html
(5) http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=300
(6) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38130006/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
(7) http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_15536630
(8) http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTINDONESIA/Resources/226271-1170911056314/3428109-1174614780539/SternReviewEng.pdf

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Que2646

Many Republicans, such as the Republicans for Environmental Protection, are alarmed that the Republican leadership has moved away from its core conservative value of "Conservation". Here is why conservation is important in past Republican leader's words.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:13 PM EDT
steven-791492

The Republican Party have moved to protecting corporate profits over anything else.

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:29 PM EDT
Free Mason-1490678

Steve, you really need to turn MSNBC off. Would you be happy if the PRIVATE SECTOR were all together abandoned? Can we all work for the Government at this point?

#2.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:36 PM EDT
steven-791492

Free Mason always good to hear from you. I said nothing of the sort, I am a capitalist to the core ... but corporate welfare and the massive shipment of jobs overseas is wrong.

As I have said many times before I get my news from several sources, hell 2-3 times a week I look into Fox news to see what lies are being told....:)

Again thanks for taking the time to jerk my chain.

  • 5 votes
#2.2 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 10:04 PM EDT
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The Spirit

Another liberal talking smear -- that conservatives don't want to preserve the environment. Is that because conservatives don't set fire to car lots and take hostages at Discovery? Is that because conservatives don't force oil companies to drill in deep water, where they should not be? Is that because conservatives aren't hunted by the FBI?

Reply#3 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 7:58 PM EDT
Que2646

Much of the article came from the Republicans for Environmental Protection. I did not intend to smear either Republicans or Conservatives who wish to conserve the environment. I think most conservatives want to preserve the environment on a personal level but oppose actions that would require large companies to stop polluting. What is our position?

  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 9:04 PM EDT
Sydney - 5

The Spirit,

From the Straw Man Department: You might want to take a look at that Discovery hostage taker's position on immigration before assuming he was a lib. He left behind a long discourse on his negative views about immigration that was anything but liberal, railing against, among other things, the need to rid the country of "anchor baby filth." Here's the link:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/37085_Discovery_Gunman-_Just_Nuts#rss

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:25 PM EDT
spudpundit

that conservatives don't want to preserve the environment.

More because they're the ones carrying bumper-stickers saying "Wilderness -- Land of No Use", push for snowmobile access in the most pristine public parks, pass EPA exemptions for natural gas fracking operations, "Drill, Baby, Drill", push for wolf extinction. And those are just the ones I can come up with near the end of the day with the rest of the house asleep.

I'm happy to apologize for extremists like the loon who did a "death by cops" at Discovery, for PETA extremists, and destroyers of human safety and property with EarthFirsters and Earth Liberation Front. (And that's just for extreme actions, not for their commitment to the earth) if you want to do the same for the above. By the way, most of these people are more on the anarchist end of the scale, not necessarily liberal -- but I'll take the shot if you will.

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:32 PM EDT
parks05

spud, I would say most of the conservative examples you've given are the corporations and bought-and-paid-for political representatives in their respective states.

#3.4 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 5:17 AM EDT
spudpundit

are the corporations and bought-and-paid-for political representatives in their respective states.

Cheney was directly involved in the fracking exemption. As for the rest, what's the difference?

  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 6:51 PM EDT
parks05

The difference is the benefit of the doubt I give to regular Joe Republican and the lack of trust I have for politicians in general. My point, in other words, is that your complaint is valid but it addresses the politicians and not the majority of republican voters.

#3.6 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 7:43 PM EDT
spudpundit

I give to regular Joe Republican and the lack of trust I have for politicians in general.

I suppose this is generally true for both parties. Not every politician reflects my values completely. But remember that I do live in the west, where environmentalists are seen as the enemy of resource exploitation (not meant as a slam, just the normal definition of the word). In some cases they may have a point that environmentalism has harmed jobs -- in many other cases the environmentalists are just a scapegoat for some individual issues when there are other forces hurting jobs.

There's also an irritation among recreationalists who want to be able to drive their camper to anywhere in the woods, and can't understand why it's only accessible by hikers and horse owners. Many of the same conflicts exist in states where the federal government manages the majority of the state's acreage.

  • 2 votes
#3.7 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
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Que2646

The deleted post was an ad.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 8:52 PM EDT
Sydney - 5

Repubs have, indeed, typically been environmentalists. And certainly still are as individuals.

I'd add to the list NYS's most recent Repub governor Geo. Pataki, an ardent protector of the environment, especially the Adirondacks.

I was raised by Repubs (the moderate, Rockefeller variety) and was initially and briefly registered as a Repub myself. (My parents left the party in disgust when it began to change.)

That said, I see little in the current GOP that I believe my late parents would recognize, including the shift within the leadership away from environmentalism.

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:16 PM EDT
spudpundit

I was raised by Repubs (the moderate, Rockefeller variety)

That may be the difference. I have honest respect for some groups like Ducks Unlimited. But out west there's a wide range of conservatives (who would consider Rockefeller a RINO) who despise public lands, resist every environmental regulation as an affront to property rights, hate the fact that the Feds have reserved considerable portions of their states, and laugh at any environmental concerns as "ravings of the loony left." I appreciate whatever you do for the environment, but it's not universal in the Republican Party.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
Sydney - 5

Spudpundit,

I appreciate whatever you do for the environment, but it's not universal in the Republican Party.

I'm a Dem. Guess I didn't make that clear. My bad. Haven't been registered as a Repub since I was like 19 or 20 and out of my parent's sight. And, believe me, that's been a while. :)

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
spudpundit

Haven't been registered as a Repub since I was like 19 or 20 and out of my parent's sight.

I meet a lot of folks who went through the same thing here on NV. You're in a very big club.

  • 2 votes
#6.2 - Thu Sep 2, 2010 12:33 AM EDT
Sydney - 5

Could you direct me to a good support group? Just kidding. :)

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Thu Sep 2, 2010 12:39 AM EDT
Que2646

Could you direct me to a good support group?

There is a Republican Progressive Group here on Newsvine if you are interested in working to change the party from within. We may need support more than we can give it.

  • 1 vote
#6.4 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
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