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April's Photography Challenge: Leading Lines

Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
photography, newsvine-photographers, challenges, nvp-monthly-photo-challenge, april-challenge
By Ben Josephs

© Benjamin Pecka


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April's Challenge:

  • Share an old photograph of yours using leading lines as a composition element.
  • Or,

  • Obtain a new photograph using leading lines as a compositional element.

Extra Credit:

  • In addition to using leading lines, use a compositional element from a past challenge (framing, implied presence, or twilight).

A leading line is a composition element in photography that uses lines to bring added focus to a subject, or occasionally will lead you outside the image. A line can be anything, a sidewalk, roadway, path, railroad tracks, or even the lines of a leaf.

Knowing this technique will greatly enhance your images.

When composing a shot, take a moment and see if there is anything that can be used as a leading line. Items like paths, long shadows, natural features and such work very well. The line should begin at or near the bottom of the shot and work its way toward the top – preferably near the main subject. Diagonal lines are sharp and dynamic while curved lines are smooth and graceful.

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Take a look at the above photograph. While it's not a terribly strong example of leading lines, the rail track leads your focus to the horse ornament, as do the ties, rock bed, and the viewable horizon. It's undeniable where your attention is drawn.


Here are some additional examples (fair use):

Slipway Leading Line

Unit 2 Leading Lines

Leading Lines

Another one of Spadina in all its yellow, leading-lined glory

DSCN0277

Bicycle Police, St Paul, MN

Leading lines again

Winding Road

More leading lines...

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Ben Josephs

There are a plentiful number of examples above and should give a good idea of where to start. If you still have questions, please contact a group administrator.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

... or leave a comment below.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
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A. Macarthur

Ben,

This is an extremely useful compositional element and a great challenge topic; the extra credit is a great idea as well, incorporating yet another important element(s)!

Well-conceived and most useful!

A. Mac

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:58 PM EDT
rottlady

Kudos to Ben for coming up with another good challenge! Hopefully I'll get something before the end of the month this time....

  • 3 votes
#3 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
3kyw4law

Same here, rottlady. I never did get that twilight shot.

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:23 PM EDT
River-239955

Aha !!

Think I have one already. :)

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

There is no problem going back and doing past challenges, in fact, I recommend it.

Think I have one already. :)

Not so fast:

Obtain a NEW photograph using leading lines as a compositional element.

The monthly challenges are meant to teach, so pulling up an old photograph does not compute... but don't let that stop you from publishing that image outside of this challenge.

  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:41 PM EDT
River-239955

I better bow out of monthly challenges, then. I just took the photographs two days ago, and haven't gotten around to publishing them just yet. I'll get to it eventually. Meanwhile, I'm in way over my head.... Will pick up new things as I go along at my pace.

:)

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

I'm always in over my head methinks, it must be the preferable state of being.

It's important to work at your own pace. The challenges are easy to participate in as you please, so I wouldn't recommend bowing completely. If you ever find yourself with some extra free camera time, it's a good way to exercise your photography skills.

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
Soovivers

Hey River - I wanna see your pictures. So please don't bow out. We're all in this together my dear.

  • 3 votes
#3.6 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:35 PM EDT
Soovivers

Ben - this sounds interesting. I'm already thinking of one that may work (haven't taken it yet). It's just a thought right now.

  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:43 PM EDT
River-239955

Hey River - I wanna see your pictures. So please don't bow out. We're all in this together my dear.

I just posted them, Soovivers, to my column. :)

May or may not "bow out", but I am not committed to it. Will instead lurk and learn without the time constraints. It's a really a great group, and I like to be able to see the expertise and study the thoughts of those who have mastered photography. I learn a lot as I watch.

  • 3 votes
#3.8 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 5:26 PM EDT
MalamuteMan

There is no need to bow out River! The way I see it, even if you didn't take the photo with this exercise in mind, you are still engaging the challenge because you are making the connection between the content of the existing image and the objective of the exercise.

  • 3 votes
#3.9 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

River,

Ultimately, it is the administrators job to give you what you want out of the group. I'm sorry if I made you feel you couldn't participate in the challenge but I think you answered a question.

We were talking about adding different levels of participation recently so that we could accommodate everybody... didn't really come to a consensus... but I really wanted to add something to this month's challenge and it couldn't be put off, it's five days late the way it is. I decided on just adding the 'extra credit' but now I know that was not quite right.

There should be three different ways to accept the challenge:

  1. Old photograph on theme.
  2. New photograph on theme.
  3. Extra credit on theme.

The distinction of which you did should be stated, we're here to learn from each other. See Mal's 7.2, perfectly stated.

Thank you River, for answering this question and for being here. I really appreciate it.

  • 3 votes
#3.10 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 6:52 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Kudos to Ben for coming up with another good challenge!

Thanks rottlady. What do you think of the ornament? I'd say it's at least 23 years old.

  • 2 votes
#3.11 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:07 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

I'm reminded of a situation I had at work awhile back. I was working back-up patient registration, something I dislike doing, on a very busy day, on a day where all the front office staff were out. There was a massive headache and a perceptively nitpicky nurse practitioner on my case. It was highly irritating but I let it go until she asked me a condescending question. I wrote her an email, telling her to defect to the lead or supervisor if there's a problem with a simple registration error. I found this to be a perfectly acceptable thing to do, except that because I was distracted, the words came out much harsher than intended and we had to have this meeting about it, etc.

  • 3 votes
#3.12 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:46 PM EDT
Soovivers

came out much harsher than intended and we had to have this meeting about it,

Ben - I've done that before - I think we all have so don't worry about it. We're resilient around here I think.

  • 3 votes
#3.13 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:50 PM EDT
A. Macarthur

River,

Don't bow out ... can we all agree that the "rules" are really "suggestions?" I don't want to see anyone decide not to share their images ... that's unnecessary and counter to the idea of a community.

Post your pictures, ask questions if you want to or feel that you need to, but to have you "bow out" would be a significant loss to the group.

Stay, River.

A. Mac

  • 5 votes
#3.14 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:30 PM EDT
rottlady

Ben, What do you think of the ornament? I'd say it's at least 23 years old. I love it, actually I want it! *grins*

River, please don't feel like you aren't wanted here in this group because you are! It would be a terrible loss if you decided to bow out.

  • 5 votes
#3.15 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:41 PM EDT
Nofluer

Rules? There are RULES? ;-D

Yes - I read them and they said NEW pictures - and so I obeyed and posted a 39-year-old picture. :-O

RULES are for people who need them. I just woggle along doing what seems best. And if someone doesn't like it, and says something about RULES... well... okay. Then I guess i don't belong there. In a more structured situation, yes. I do rules. But here?

For this group I just figured, so... what... there's a million dollar prize for the "winner"? Okay. I can live without it - but if you like the pics despite the rules, then it's all good. :-)

(Actually the rules kept me from posting stuff because I don't always have time to grab a camera and go take pictures of the subject du jour.)

  • 3 votes
#3.16 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:52 PM EDT
River-239955

Thank you all so much for your thoughts and for the welcomes. It does mean a lot to me. I do value every one of you, and am learning by leaps and bounds. This group gives me loads of information and ideas. The feedback is very constructive and helpful as I get more used to taking pics. This is, after all, my first camera. Photography is not something that I have much of a background in. I didn't even know what a "leading line" was until today, lol !!!!

I have been experiencing a little confusion with the photography group. I was invited to participate in Foto Friday, and have been unsure if random shots from random members should be posted in the group itself. Some of you have top-grade, professional quality work, and I would not want to clutter up your platform with shots that are not nearly so clean and refined.

When I mentioned bowing out, it was only from Ben's challenge, and not from the group itself. My lifestyle does not afford me a lot of opportunity to take pics, and with the time restrictions to go along with the specifics of the challenge, I know that I may or may not get the assignment right enough to participate. In last month's challenge, I didn't get it met until the very last sunset of the month, lol..

The streets of general America, especially in metroplexes, are too dangerous for me to be running around with an expensive camera alone. There are days that I do dare to take it with me when I have to go "out there", but I am picky about those days. If I am feeling absent-minded, or if the crime reports are spiking, or if I know it will be rainy, I leave it at home, along with a host of other reasons 'not to' risk it.

And so, with that said.... Thank you, Ben, for making a few adjustments to the criteria for the challenge. It helps me a great deal, and can broaden the opportunities I have to participate. I am truly enjoying my camera and learning more about photography is opening doors for me every day. I'd hate to miss out on that.

{{Big hugs}} and Thanks to All of You for your thoughtful caring and support.

  • 5 votes
#3.17 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 10:07 PM EDT
Soovivers

Yay River - I loved your pictures - lines, ducks and all.

  • 3 votes
#3.18 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 8:58 AM EDT
Ben Josephs

River, I guess that means that you would be very missed if you were to leave the group.

  • 1 vote
#3.19 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:03 AM EDT
Ben Josephs

...the ornament?

Rocky now has a name and will make further appearances in these articles.

  • 1 vote
#3.20 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT
rottlady

Great name for him Ben, I'll look forward to seeing him more often!

  • 1 vote
#3.21 - Thu Apr 8, 2010 7:42 AM EDT
Reply
CL1

I have a photo on my computer that would fit this theme, but I have never written or seeded anything, and am a supreme 'techno dummy'!! Plus, essays ...ouch!! -- lol

Well, I'll think about it; and I don't know how to add tags, groups and all of that, either.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

CL,

I'd be more than happy to help you out if you decide to go ahead and publish that photograph. Just shoot me an email.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
CL1

Thanks, Ben. I appreciate your willingness to help.

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT
Reply
MalamuteMan

I see you got the HTML fixed... I wonder if I was the only one that saw the "issue"???

BTW- That photo of your pooch that you have in the slide show on your column where you are looking down his leg from his paw to his head would be a really good one for this exercise... Speaking strictly from a dog's perspective of course...

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

I bet I could get the pooch to hold a position for a portrait shot using his leg as a leading line.

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:35 PM EDT
Reply
3kyw4law

Can the leading line be the main focus of the picture? I have a picture that I think will fit this challenge but the "line" is actually the main focus of the picture.

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:29 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Please see comment 3.3.

  • 1 vote
#6.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:41 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

A leading line is a composition element in photography that uses lines to bring added focus to a subject, or occasionally will lead you outside the image.

The image you speak of seems to fit the description.

  • 1 vote
#6.2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
3kyw4law

Okay, I'm confused now but that is okay as it is the state that I am usually in. I'll go out and get a new picture (hopefully) and then post both of them.

#6.3 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 12:37 AM EDT
Ben Josephs

Go up and look at 'Winding Road'.

  • 1 vote
#6.4 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:02 AM EDT
Reply
Nofluer

So... what? We post a reply here - can we attach the pics here? Or do we have to post on our own site and then clip to the group?

  • 2 votes
#7 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:53 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Nofluer, we don't have the ability (aside from linking) to attach photographs to the comment thread and seeding/clipping to the group violates the COH, so we need to upload/link the image(s) to an article.

  • 1 vote
#7.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
MalamuteMan

Nofluer,

The idea is to publish an article of your own... Start by taking one or more photos that address the challenge. Then put them into an article. You might want to say something about your experience in searching out a scene that met the challenge or if you did something special to capture the shot and if you have any difficulties or questions, talk about that so that everyone hears about your experience and everyone benefits from whatever answers may be provided to your questions. In this way we all learn from each other.

  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
Nofluer

So you're saying I shouldn't have clipped my article? Can it be UNclipped?

  • 1 vote
#7.3 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 5:59 PM EDT
MalamuteMan

I am not sure where I suggested that you shouldn't have clipped your article... If I did, then My Bad! Clipping your article or directly publishing it to the group is definitely the idea. I think Ben and I thought you were asking about putting your photo into THIS article... in the comments somehow.

#7.4 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:15 PM EDT
Nofluer

Okay. Then it's up and clipped and I even changed the title of the article to match your terminology! Talk about up-town! Whooo!

Put up four of my old shots... well... the castle pic is from '71 but the rest are lots newer... :-)

  • 1 vote
#7.5 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:24 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

You should have the ability to remove your content from groups by hitting the trashcan next to your article on the group front page. Your article is exactly how you participate, though, so it doesn't need to be unclipped. See comment 3.10.

The only real requirement to participate is that the photographs you publish to the group must be taken by you. We also have this monthly challenge and Foto Friday (participants focus the majority of their photo essays on the same day each week).

  • 1 vote
#7.6 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:25 PM EDT
Ben JosephsDeleted
MalamuteMan

to attach photographs to the comment thread and seeding/clipping from your own siteviolates the COH

Huh??? I link to photographs on one of my sites all the time... like this...

#7.8 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:04 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Yeah, I dunno. One of those days...

I'm referring to seeding from your own site and I don't know why. Let me delete that comment.

  • 2 votes
#7.9 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:08 PM EDT
runjobsrun

IIRC, the policy is that you cannot seed articles from your own site but it is okay to cross-post.

  • 2 votes
#7.10 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:27 PM EDT
CL1

The first time I read the CoH (over a year ago) and saw the phrase "own site" - I thought it meant 'our own Newsvine Column'. Later, I realized what it means is a "site" other than Newsvine. It's Ok to link to our own columns from another's article or seed.

I wonder if anyone else thought "site" meant NV Column??

  • 2 votes
#7.11 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 9:55 PM EDT
CL1

Ben, it re-reading Mal's 7.2. and his pointing out the purpose of this group is to learn. This reminds me of a question I had awhile back. When the photographers add what settings they used on their cameras, does that mean that most brands of cameras all have the equivalent settings (other than point and shoot)? I just use a point and shoot, so doesn't that mean that I can't aid the learning process? My participation would just be showing comprehension of the theme, not much else, is that right?

  • 1 vote
#7.12 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Cameras/lenses have different capabilities but things like f-stops, shutter speed, ISO, etc. will apply to all SLRs. Point and shoot type cameras will also have similar mode settings (nighttime, indoor, party, beach, macro etc.)

Comprehension of the theme is just fine with me... but you should probably expect some encouragement from everyone to go beyond.

  • 1 vote
#7.13 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT
CL1

Great explanation, Ben, thank you.

  • 1 vote
#7.14 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
MalamuteMan

CL,

As Ben says there are mode settings on point-and-shoot cameras, but these are more like metering modes on SLRs. These "modes" use a complex software algorithm to determine how light measured by the camera is used to establish an appropriate exposure speed (ISO), aperture, and shutter speed. SLRs offer the same things, but allow the user to be very specific about some or all of the various parameters. For example, on most SLRs there is something called aperture priority where the user sets the desired aperture and the camera determines appropriate values for all the other parameters based on the aperture the user selected. There is also something called manual mode where the user sets ALL the various parameters. In earlier days, all photography required the photographer to take light measurements with a separate meter (not connected to the camera) and using personal experience and tabulated data, set an appropriate aperture and shutter speed. ISO or ASA (film speed) was fixed in the chemical composition of the film being used. In a digital camera ISO is just a value that tells the camera how quickly the image sensor should gather light.

While I am now starting to focus on some of these more technical aspects of photography, composition has always been the aspect of photography that attracted me. So until very recently, I used my DSLR camera in a metering mode that was essentially point-and-shoot mode. Most of the exercises that Ben has given us are focused on composition techniques, and as such work well for any kind of camera.

  • 2 votes
#7.15 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT
CL1

MM -- you sure have a knack for explanation and communication, as well. Thank you for that!

I inherited one of those manual cameras (Canon) and never did figure out how to use it or the zoom attachment - or didn't try very hard was more like it - maybe some day, though.

Thanks, too, for bringing up "aperture." I read Ben first as the one to use that word and wondered what it was. Great explanation on ISO, too.

Composition is what most attracts me as well, and I must admit that the expertise that you and some of the others have achieved is inspirational. When I purchased my digital point-and-shoot, my salesman set the metering to what is most often used and I left it that way! ...embarassed to admit that. - lol. I'll readily admit that mechanics are not part of my intelligence, so it may be awhile before I play with these cameras (and screw them up!).

Again, thank you so much for taking the time and interest to post your reply.

  • 3 votes
#7.16 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT
Nofluer

CL

For me, I began life as the son of a part time professional photog who specialized in accident pics, and had blanket permission from the State fire marshal to cross any police line at any fire in the State if he had his camera with him. He even got one shot on the cover of a national magazine! So I learned a lot from him about composition and such things as depth of field. When I took the accident shots of my wife's head-on accident (no one hurt), the angles I used and the subjects of the individual shots and the depth of field of all of them got my wife off of a ticket. :-)

My first camera that I remember was a little 110. MY first "professional" camera was a 1970 Yashika TL Electro-X that I bought in Hong Kong. It had a built in light meter, but everything else was pretty much manual. With practice I got to where I could pretty much point and shoot without using the light meter - you get a feel for light and shutter speed, and most film is very forgiving, (and if it's a static shot, you bracket it with over and under exposures). By the time the camera died, I had used it for such things as stop-action existing light shots of karate tournaments, military aircraft (in flight and on the deck, and making bomb runs), and so on.

As you get more experienced, and learn how to do some of the little things to get those good shots, it will get easier. I have a shot I took with my Canon Rebel 2000 using a 75 - 300 telephoto lens that gave me a depth of field of about 50 feet.

All the above was to illustrate that you will get used to what you have to use. I have a little digital point and shoot camera and I'll be darned if I can remember what all the little pictures on the dial mean! A flower? A face? A guy with a baseball bat? WHA??? So with a digital camera with all the little pictures on the dial, you'll probably be a LOT better than me.

The important thing is that you NOT bog yourself down with all the picky details at this stage. Just make sure you have good batteries in the thing, and plenty of room on the card, and CONCENTRATE on what you see through the view-finder and you're good!

  • 3 votes
#7.17 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 10:05 PM EDT
CL1

Nofluer ---

Thank you for such a wonderful, thoughtful and informative post! You are very encouraging as are many others here. That does make sense that we eventually get used to whatever we have to use, learning leads to increased curiosity, continued expertise, and hopefully -- a desire to improve and build upon what we have learned, and gain even more knowledge!

I intend to take your advice, and try not to get bogged-down and overwhelmed. Now we just need some decent weather! --Thank you, again. :-)

  • 2 votes
#7.18 - Thu Apr 8, 2010 2:36 PM EDT
Dowser

Nofluer-- it helped me too! Thanks for making it more 'forgiving'!

#7.19 - Thu Apr 8, 2010 8:34 PM EDT
Reply
Dowser

I have an idea, but will have to work on it to make sure it turns out... I'm leaving a comment so that I can keep track of this! Thanks!

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:02 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

I like the sounds of effort brewing, looking forward, Dowser.

By the way, did you get that packet I sent?

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:37 PM EDT
Dowser

Yes, dear Ben-- I sent you an email of thanks! did you not get my email?

Oh my, I'm so "embarrassed"-- you took all that trouble and didn't get my thank you note!

Ben, I'm started a notebook for photography helps and it is featured prominantly! Thank you so very much for your help-- I carefully read it and will keep it for future reference.

Thank you! Please forgive me that my email didn't reach you...

  • 1 vote
#8.2 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

I was just worried that it didn't get to you... the post office has a history of losing things I send.

  • 1 vote
#8.3 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
Dowser

Ben, for awhile there, my email via contact this author was a hit or miss proposition... I'm truly sorry that you didn't get my message. Hope you have a great day-- and thank you, again!

  • 1 vote
#8.4 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT
Dowser

I went out today and eye-balled my shot-- Now I have to get permission... :-)

Wish me luck!

  • 1 vote
#8.5 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 6:49 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Well that's interesting, Dowser. I'm looking forward!

  • 1 vote
#8.6 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 7:06 PM EDT
Dowser

Thanks, Ben-- I just hope it works out!

#8.7 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
Reply
Raat ki Raani

I like this group. Good way to learn a subject.

Just parking this comment here as a way to remind me to try this challenge. I'll be back.

  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
EttaJames Photog

Sounds like fun Ben, thanks..... sounds like work too..... great fun!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Article update to reflect changes in the challenge.

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:35 PM EDT
Proud American-252641

Awesome challenge, can't wait to get started!

  • 1 vote
Reply#12 - Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT
Dowser

Uh, Ben-- can you post for FotoFriday a day early? Sometimes, it is hard for me to have time to post things on Friday and will only get worse once the camping season starts... Friday, we load up stuff for the camper, drive down, unload, unpack, eat supper, etc. By the time I get everything done, it is Saturday morning, early...

If not, I understand. Rules are rules, and I understand completely! :-) Thanks!

Reply#13 - Thu Apr 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

As long as it's Friday somewhere.

#13.1 - Fri Apr 9, 2010 9:10 AM EDT
Dowser

Thank you so much! I'll do them late Thursday night/early early Saturday morning, if I can't make it... I'll be good, or as good as I can-- I promise! :-)

#13.2 - Fri Apr 9, 2010 12:04 PM EDT
Reply
Rene ODeay

Just caught this Challenge bit, thanks for the info on how to participate. got some interesting 'leading lines' in some of my old photos. and will try to meet this challenge.

posting this comment to keep track, as noted above.

one question, how do you get the photos on your newsvine article?

Reply#14 - Fri Apr 9, 2010 5:21 AM EDT
Raat ki Raani

Rene - Towards the bottom of the page where you add/edit a new article, there is an option to upload photos. Select the option from there to add your own photo. It's a couple of clicks from there.

  • 2 votes
#14.1 - Fri Apr 9, 2010 7:53 AM EDT
Reply
Dowser

Ok, I just posted an entry! If I need to do something differently, please let me know, so that I may try again! :-)

  • 1 vote
Reply#15 - Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:36 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

Wow, hmm, what a great dialog in this comment thread, thanks to all, though it makes me realize that there has been less of these kinds of conversations as of late. Are we all learned, or am I not doing something...?

The reason I'm commenting, though, is in wonder why this article is my most popular ever, it's averaging a few hundred hits per month... keywords gives me nothing (and there really aren't tags anyway!).

Reply#16 - Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:04 PM EDT
rottlady

It's probably "leading lines" that is drawing the hits. That would be my guess.

I don't think we are all learned out, I just think folks get distracted some times.

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#16.1 - Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:07 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

It's probably because of the theme challenges instead of 'basics of composition' types of challenges.

In general though, I think there's a lot of talking but fewer photography focused discussions. The book I'm currently reading, The Wisdom of Crowds, says, and I'm not insinuating anything here, that diverse groups, which we have, do their best learning when they talk and learn from each other, but that too much talking can (and does) reduce their collective intellect. I don't want that to happen.

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#16.2 - Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
Ben Josephs

... adding, I think we can use the group discussion feature to not only increase discussions, but to improve content. I'll eventually write up an article about it but I might first re-ignite the virtual vine meet, haven't decided yet how much thinking and research that I want to do.

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#16.3 - Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
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