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Fake Group Hands Out Fliers Meant To Mislead Black Voters In Texas (VIDEO)

News Type: Event — Seeded on Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:26 PM EDT
Article Source: Talking Points Memo
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Misleading fliers are showing up on the windshields of vehicles at a predominately African-American polling place in Houston that claim to come from a non-existent group called the "Black Democratic Trust of Texas."

The fliers were placed on the windshields of vehicles at and near the Sunnyside Early Voting location and tell voters not to voter straight Democrat, according to Texas Democrats and local news reports.

Caught: Fake voting flyers distributed to African American voters in TexasRaw StoryThu Oct 281
Vote suppression campaign in full swing. Fake flier distributed to Texas African Americans says voting a straight Democratic Party ticket will cast all votes for Republicans.ABC Local AffiliatesFri Oct 291
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Soph0571

The flier includes what appears to be an image of Ann Richards, the deceased former Democratic governor of the state. Outside of news reports about this flier, there is no online record of a group called the "Black Democratic Trust of Texas."

"These fliers are part of a coordinated effort between the Tea Party and Houston Republicans to intimidate and misinform voters," Chad W. Dunn, General Counsel for the Texas Democratic Party, told TPMMuckraker.

  • 49 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:26 PM EDT
Lola-984242

I live in Texas and I will be voting STRAIGHT TICKET DEMOCRAT, I've never done this before but after watching the actions of the republican party these last 20 months I will never be able to vote for anyone in the republican party again, nor could I ever vote for a Tea Party candidate.

Sorry republicans, but you've done this to yourselves, just saying no does not help the country, you need to offer an alternative if you're against something.

  • 85 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:20 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

Some of the dirty tricks being perpetrated to disenfrancishe voters are going to slip through the cracks. These efforts demean our democratic republic.

  • 44 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
independentbychoice

dirty politics are not the domain of one party. both parties engage in trickery.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39875737/

remember, dems and repubs, and their staunch supporters, are opposite ends of the same turd.

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

Independent - the linked article says that teapublicans and democrats sign up people to be considered as political candidates. That trickery is not the same as fooling people to keep them from voting or intimidating people to keep them from voting or telling people to protest a political party by not voting or engaging in any other activity that creates confusion about voting.

moving along . . .

Yesterday, I had an interesting conversation about the electorate where a person was describing how a number of the electorate exists soley in the necessity of "now". As described to me, it's an existence that knows very little recent past and rarely considers beyond a near distant future. These people are easy to manipulate and teapublicans are able to manipulate them very easily with disinformation. I don't know whether people are really that easily "guided". I'm still thinking about it.

  • 25 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT
Mike-475880

I live in Texas and this is nothing new to us. I remember when W was running against Ann Richards for governor. All of a sudden fliers started appearing on the windshields of cars parked outside churches talking about Ann and how she used drugs, was a lesbian and had a whole staff of gays working for her.

  • 40 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
independentbychoice

happy,

no. the article shows that democrats gather enough signatures to get tea party candidates on the ballot. thus, siphoning votes from republican candidates. maybe you don't see that as dirty politics, as a person with no loyalty toward either party, i do.

#1.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
Lola-984242

I remember that too Mike, this shouldn't be surprising to us should it?

  • 26 votes
#1.7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:58 PM EDT
Mike-475880

Nope, unfortunately.

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

Independent - I do not deny that one party engages dirty political tricks more than the other or dispute that signing up people to siphon off votes is is bad politics.

I am concerned about the dirty tricks that confuse people engaged in the act of voting. Many people vote straight tickets because that's all they know about how to vote as opposed to discerning differences and voting accordingly.

In Maryland suburbs around DC, voters received voting guides that list the teapublican governor candidate as a democrat and there isn't enough money to republish and send new guides to correct the "error". The teapublican is thrilled to garner any/all disinformation votes. I sincerely hope that the actual ballot labels the politicians' political party correctly while realizing that people who trust the accuracy of the voting guide will take it into the voting booth as an aid and vote for the wrong candidate.

  • 20 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
Larry-304061

Is this like the deliberate attempt to modify someones votes by pre-selecting Democrat Harry Reid? This flyer campaign sounds less effective and can't be confirmed as an inside job like breaking the law by tampering w/ voting machines, but sure, lets run with it.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:49 PM EDT
maximillio

dirty politics are not the domain of one party. both parties engage in trickery.

Were you trying to excuse these shenanigans?

  • 22 votes
#1.11 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:08 PM EDT
Brandon-801865

The Party of No cannot sustain their lies indefinitely, even with a catastrophically ignorant American electorate.

  • 28 votes
#1.12 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:20 PM EDT
demmywemmy

I remember when W was running against Ann Richards for governor. All of a sudden fliers started appearing on the windshields of cars parked outside churches talking about Ann and how she used drugs, was a lesbian and had a whole staff of gays working for her.

Hmm...seems to have been his modus operandi. In 2000 he had his operatives spread rumors that McCain had been treated for depression and was mentally unstable. At the time McCain was indeed a "maverick" (compared to the lame-o he is today), was an early frontrunner and looked like the R nominee. Once W and gang let loose with the lies, McCain was finished.

Yes. well, if it's worked before....

  • 17 votes
#1.13 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:29 PM EDT
dwillie

We know that conservibaggerpublicans are lying whenever they:

  1. ...are talking
  2. ...are writing something
  3. ...are showing a video
  4. ...are publishing something
  5. ...are presenting something

Conservibaggerpublicans lie without ceasing and will do so into perpetuity.

  • 28 votes
#1.14 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:33 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Hmm...seems to have been his modus operandi. In 2000 he had his operatives spread rumors that McCain had been treated for depression and was mentally unstable.

Oh yeah, then there was McCain's black illegitimate child rumor too.

  • 27 votes
#1.15 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
Mo Jito

I just wanted to point out here that they have no idea who is behind it. Until they find the group (or individual) responsible you should refrain from accusing the republicans or "teabaggers". Obviously this is a despicable act, but accusing a group without evidence isn't any better. "The Texas Democratic Party will ultimately discover who was behind this effort and we will ensure they bear the full weight of civil and criminal penalties."

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
Blayde

I'm voting a straight democratic ticket but remember in Nebraska my democrat isn't helping Obama, if your republican looks like they will help Obama vote for him/her, else get rid of him/her. I can't get rid of Nelson so I have to vote for him, a no vote will probably give a bigger jerk a chance. Nelson will get phone calls after the election.

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:35 PM EDT
Soph0571

Nelson will get phone calls after the election.

Blayde - God help him with you calling..... persistent and logical - politicians hate that @!$%#:)

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:43 PM EDT
Zoolopolis

Who says Teanuts aren't racists? They're loud and they're proud!

Give me a B!
Give me a I!
Give me a G!
Give me a O!
Give me a T!

What does that spell?! BIGOT!!!!

Support Teanut bigots. Vote this Nov. Paid for by Crackers For the Promotion of Jim Crow.

  • 28 votes
#1.19 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:58 PM EDT
JAVE

If a person is stupid enough to be tricked into changing their vote based on a window flyer, then they should not be allow to cast a vote in the first place.

The don't vote the ticket line is more creative then the yearly flyer that tells Republicans to vote on election day and Democrats to vote the next day. It is claimed many people are suckered by that ol' trick year after year.

  • 1 vote
#1.20 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:59 PM EDT
Soph0571

Paid for by Crackers For the Promotion of Jim Crow.

Zoolopolis - although all fabulous this is one of your best straplines:) scarily funny!!

  • 13 votes
#1.21 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
Blayde

I didn't care about mid-terms until this year, I'll vote a straight democratic ticket in response to the unconscionable rhetoric of the GOP and their splinter group, the tea bags.

  • 17 votes
#1.22 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:10 PM EDT
Timothy Lingard

Very good seed, Soph. They really need to keep their eyes open too. Ashley Todd may try to fool everyone again by scratching another "B" on her cheek. She was from Texas, you know.

  • 10 votes
#1.23 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
Ruilt Wolfrick

Just when you think their actions couldn't get any worse they keep raising the bar.

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
Harry Weidermier

Voting straight ticket democrat still won't stop the conservative landslide on Tuesday. And for all we know this is a reverse smear attempt courtesy of our friends at ACORN.

Step aside dems... you've scrwed the pooch for the last time.

  • 2 votes
#1.25 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:27 PM EDT
Loyal Demokrat

talking about Ann and how she used drugs, was a lesbian and had a whole staff of gays working for her.

All true.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:30 AM EDT
George Marez

This year, this Texan is voting straight Democratic.

My first mid-term elections ever, too.

  • 16 votes
#1.27 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:13 AM EDT
Jimster

Can anyone tell ,e why this is allowed to continue? I don't care who does it, L or R it despicable.

I wounld instantlycount anyone who does this as un-American. They should be arrested.

Yeah I know it's gone on for a long time, but that's no excuse to do nothing.

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:47 AM EDT
billy-witchdoctor-com

We are talking about the same Billionaire Bill White who complained that Rick Perry is a millionaire, the same Bill White who bankrupted the city of Houston then left Annise Parker to clean up his mess, he left to bankrupt the State of Texas....but those who want a State income tax in texas will vote for Billionaire Bill White. That Bill white...correct?

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:44 AM EDT
Jack TX

"These fliers are part of a coordinated effort between the Tea Party and Houston Republicans to intimidate and misinform voters," Chad W. Dunn, General Counsel for the Texas Democratic Party, told TPMMuckraker.

I missed in the article....why do they think this?

I live in Texas and this is nothing new to us. I remember when W was running against Ann Richards for governor. All of a sudden fliers started appearing on the windshields of cars parked outside churches talking about Ann and how she used drugs, was a lesbian and had a whole staff of gays working for her.

I've lived here for 20 years. I don't remember this. Where did it happen?

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT
Robert Duckworth

Here in Jefferson City MO. when Obama and McCain were running, there was a mass text/Email that went out that said "Due to the larger than expected voter turnout, all Republicans vote Tuesday, and Democrats on Wendsday". It got caught before any real damage could be done, but it showed one thing. Republicans will cheat to win. FLAT OUT CHEAT!

  • 5 votes
#1.31 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT
Thinksbeforejudging

To the person who said "People vote straight tickets because they are unable to discern the differences".... bull! The fact is that most of those people are the ones who are BEST able to discern the differences and know, from hard experience, that ONLY PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM will support their viewpoints.

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
Mike-475880

Jack TX

I've lived here for 20 years. I don't remember this. Where did it happen?

Not sure what town but when it hit it went big. Just do a search for "Ann Richards Gay" and a bunch about it comes up. Here's a quote from one site,

There was a lot of whispering going on in the backwater," says Bill Cryer, a former newsman who worked as Richards' press secretary. "I don't think anybody ever really thought Ann Richards was gay, but somebody was trying to plant the seed."

Bush says nothing about the rumors, but he doesn't have to. The stories are everywhere, and one day a Bush surrogate -- a state senator serving as Bush's East Texas campaign chairman, a guy who just happens to have worked with Rove -- says just enough about the rumors to get the word into the press. Richards' appointments of "avowed homosexuals," he tells a reporter, might be a liability in her campaign for reelection.

Just like that, the allegation is on the record, the rumors become newspaper stories, and Bush becomes governor of Texas."

Nasty stuff usually attribute to Rove.

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:40 PM EDT
Jack TX

Sorry, I just don't remember this. I Googled and found pretty much nothing. I remember this election pretty well, and I remember her term sorta well. She was a decent governor. She was 100 times better than Clayton Williams, but she was never very popular and TX had already started becoming a republican state.

I don't ever remember anyone...and I know some complete RW nutjobs...implying she was gay.

She got in trouble here because she aligned herself closely with Clinton, who was always extremely unpopular in TX.

Nasty stuff usually attribute to Rove.

Nasty stuff is usually attributed to Rove.....not incorrectly, BTW.

  • 3 votes
#1.34 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:30 PM EDT
Rixar13

Is this what big money buys??? All the more reason to vote straight Democrat...

Bull $hit is deeper in Texas.... Smile :-)

  • 6 votes
#1.35 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
CynicL1

there are no depths too low for Republicans to slither to when it concerns election fraud and deceit.

  • 4 votes
#1.36 - Mon Nov 1, 2010 9:58 AM EDT
Mary Price99224

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only an idiot would believe that flier. Do they think blacks are idiots? I guess so. What an insult.

  • 33 votes
#2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Do they think blacks are idiots? I guess so.

Probably, yes. But you know, I think the illogic of that flier might be better explained by the possibility that they think we're like them- that is, willing and able to accept anything told to them by people they see as their leaders, even if it makes no sense at all.

  • 24 votes
#2.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT
SameSoulSistaAgain81

Its only going to get nuttier.

  • 27 votes
#3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:23 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Yes, it is.

I just wonder what was in the minds of these halfwit Machiavellis:

"Republicans are trying to trick us!" the flier reads. "When you vote straight ticket Democrat, it is actually voting for Republicans and your vote doesn't count. We are urging everyone to VOTE for BILL WHITE. A VOTE for BILL WHITE is a VOTE for the ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC ticket. We have fought too hard to let Republicans use voting machines to deny us our basic rights. We must guard the change and NOT VOTE STRAIGHT TICKET DEMOCRAT!"

"YES WE CAN," the flier reads.

Can anyone make sense of that?

  • 30 votes
#3.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
SameSoulSistaAgain81

No because its so stupid. I read it 3 or 4 times to try to make sense of it.

  • 24 votes
#3.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:32 PM EDT
Neish1920

LMAO! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plants WTH is that mess! That is really the flier!! SMH....

  • 14 votes
#3.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
Soph0571

LMAO! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL - that was pretty much my reaction - only in Texas!

  • 26 votes
#3.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT
David S Jones

only in Texas

They are their own special brand of crazy.

  • 25 votes
#3.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Hey now! I live in Texas, there are some sane people here.

  • 20 votes
#3.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:21 PM EDT
Soph0571

there are some sane people here.

Well there is you:) LOL

  • 21 votes
#3.7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
Brent-320354

The flier had "Yes We Can" on iit. What's the problem?

LOL

  • 6 votes
#3.8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:49 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Brent-320354 - The flier had "Yes We Can" on iit. What's the problem?

Well if the republicans wanted to show that they were behind the fliers, instead of stealing Obama's trademark rally call they should of stayed with their own republican rally call of;

"just stay no to everything regardless of how it will help our country and it's citizens".

That would be so much more accurate.

  • 25 votes
#3.9 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:02 PM EDT
Babylon of Gerbil

I live in Texas and my sanity may be up for debate.

  • 16 votes
#3.10 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:18 PM EDT
Babylon of Gerbil

Is it bad if people are agreeing with me?

  • 9 votes
#3.11 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT
Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

Hetep and Respect Soph, tnx for the heads up.

Does anyone know the penalty for interfering with a American voting federal or local?

I am recommending the 28th Amendment Separation of Corporation and State to do just that.

The 2010 Texas voter fraud has caused me to rewrite Section 5 as follows.

Section 5. All the votes of every voter must be counted in Federal Elections. Any form of tampering with elections shall be considered an act of Domestic Treason with punishment not to exceed life in prison.

  • 12 votes
#3.12 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:15 PM EDT
Skye-768303

Hey now! I live in Texas, there are some sane people here.

Bless your heart, Darling. Can't you move?

  • 6 votes
#3.13 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
George Marez

We need to stay right here! RCP has changed Texas from strong Republican to leaning Republican.

We can make this state Blue before you know it!

  • 10 votes
#3.14 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
Skye-768303

We can make this state Blue before you know it!

Hurry.

  • 8 votes
#3.15 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:40 AM EDT
Lola-984242

Skye-768303 - Bless your heart, Darling. Can't you move?

No, I can't leave my family. Someday maybe, especially if Texas secedes, that would be a great motivation to get my family to move out of this state. So I do advocate for the secession of Texas, and now you know why.

God I hope so George Marez!!!

  • 6 votes
#3.16 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:08 PM EDT
Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

Hetep and Respect George Marez, God Bless you, keep standing up.

Elect NO Republican for 100 years, starting in NOvember.

  • 6 votes
#3.17 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:17 PM EDT
Mike-475880

Lola, I'm stuck in Texas too. But the day after my retirement, I'm outta here ;-)

  • 3 votes
#3.18 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Maybe when my husband's folks and my folks are no longer alive I can get my husband to move, until then it's in the hands of Rick Perry and secession.

  • 2 votes
#3.19 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
Soph0571

until then it's in the hands of Rick Perry and secession.

You are screwed love because then you would be a refugee and illegal alien and we all know how loved they are!:)

  • 3 votes
#3.20 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT
Lola-984242

You are screwed love because then you would be a refugee and illegal alien and we all know how loved they are!:)

No not at all, cause the minute Texas seceeds we'd have an excellent reason to move, that's why I often pray for secession, then I'd finally be able to get out of the God forsaken state. (looking towards the northwest or Canada if they'll have us, we have family there)

  • 3 votes
#3.21 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
Skye-768303

looking towards the northwest or Canada if they'll have us, we have family there

Good choice. Better go ahead and buy some property there before global warming gets here and that property sky rockets.

  • 5 votes
#3.22 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:21 AM EDT
Lola-984242

Skye-768303, you're absolutely right, we should.

  • 2 votes
#3.23 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
menmy2

I thought this was going to be a landslide for the right. Why the tricks?

  • 27 votes
#4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT
GG-537707

It is a dem trick. Folks will believe anything.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

The tricks ensure the drum beat reports that these mid-term elections are supposed to be won by teapublicans.

  • 15 votes
#4.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

Next you will be claiming the neck stomping goon at the Rand rally was a Dem plant to make the Tea Party look bad!

  • 18 votes
#4.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT
demmywemmy

GG was thinking about it...

  • 9 votes
#4.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
AmericanHuny

It is a dem trick. Folks will believe anything

So, for clarification's sake, you're trying to tell me the Democrats printed a directive guiding people NOT to vote straight-ticket Democrat, because they feel these people are comprehension-challenged enough to fall for reverse psychology and ... vote straight Democrat anyway? If these guys are comprehension-challenged, reverse psychology wouldn't work.

  • 13 votes
#4.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:07 PM EDT
steven-791492

Republican crap as usual, now the Tea Party is helping.... fine Americans..... lie and mislead.

  • 22 votes
#5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:13 PM EDT
GG-537707

Funny, you can say that about the dems just as easy. Quit believing everything you read.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
steven-791492

I have seen it more than once in the last few decades, in my own state, in my own town, did not need to read about it.

  • 10 votes
#5.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT
Soph0571

you can say that about the dems just as easy.

No - you cant....and no surprises there - what do they say the best defence is a good offence - but your offence is not so much good as .....well a wee bit sad:(

  • 12 votes
#5.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:05 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Randy McMurphy

For the party that purports to be color blind, they sure know where to direct their anti Democracy voter suppresion tactics. Doubt you'd find these in the confines of Bushs' Gated community.

When people SHOW you who they are , Believe it

  • 18 votes
#6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT
jmorris

"Color Blind" to a teabagger means they don't want to see no people of color except white.

  • 11 votes
#6.1 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:38 AM EDT
DS12

Doubt you'd find these in the confines of Bushs' Gated community.

or if any minorities either

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:16 AM EDT
Robert Duckworth

If it ain't Wham...it ain't ham. (see if anybody gets this) Hint: Cary Grant movie.

#6.3 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
ScienceGuy-356641

If left wingers were to engage in such activity, they would be accused of voter fraud by the fair and balanced folks at FOX PAC.

When right wingers do it, these same commentators would hail the instigators as being proactive.

  • 23 votes
#7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
StevG-144

HelloThe Truth 4 Once,#6 I see you are a one month wonder, and a nice return of the change the blame game. So now its the white democrats fault, and we are insulting the black democrats, for thinking they can't think for themselves. So who ever sent the fake fliers, in the first place, is to be forgotten and we should defend ourselves, because after all we are disgustingly arrogant . The big words make you look smart, I under stand that, but not so bad, you need a little more polish, and finished to strong for your first comment, save the anger till at least till the second or preferably the third comment. Just take your time and build slowly, you like to get them nibbling on the hook a little bit, and then BAM, hook'em...... (Sorry I'm just Disgustingly Arrogant)

  • 19 votes
#8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:36 PM EDT
Tri in TN

Is there any proof that the Tea Party or Republicans are responsible for this? If not, then all of you are as guilty as those planting the flyers. Get proof, then get mad.

  • 5 votes
#9 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:42 PM EDT
David S Jones

I don't have to prove that it was the Tea Party or Republicans in order to be upset with the action.

You should be upset too.

  • 17 votes
#9.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT
Soph0571

Is there any proof that the Tea Party or Republicans are responsible for this?

Well obviously it was the democrats asking voters not to vote democrat /s. give me a break

  • 22 votes
#9.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
itstoolate

Tri - I am sure it was black Democrats that perpetrated this deed, reverse physiology. Now do you feel better?

  • 7 votes
#9.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Reverse psychology? Elaborate.

  • 9 votes
#9.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
SameSoulSistaAgain81

LOL

  • 8 votes
#9.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
itstoolate

Plant wish I could, just a failed attempt at sarcasm or humor if you will. You know, we do it and make it look like they did it. Oh well, I am not planning to take my act on the road.

  • 5 votes
#9.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:20 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

TiT (nice call name)

Let me think about your idea - The Dems desperately need to get out the vote, so what do they do -- send out a flyer instructing their most obvious minority voter block to NOT VOTE STRAIGHT TICKET DEMOCRAT!

Okay - I think I see why you belong to the tea party fringe.

  • 12 votes
#9.7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Okay - I think I see why you belong to the tea party fringe.

So do I:).

  • 9 votes
#9.8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:42 PM EDT
Tri in TN

Look, everyone who just jumps to the conclusion that it was a tea party or republican plot without a shred of proof is doing more to damage this country. I don't approve of anyone doing crap like this, but in THIS country, we assume innocence until PROVEN guilty. I guess the same rules don't apply on the vine, eh?

  • 1 vote
#9.9 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
NJ in TX

I agree with Tri on this one. Is there any proof of who did this? The way politics is now, anyone trying to rile up anger against the Republicans could have put that flyer out.

And totally off topic, they need to do away with the straight party vote block. If you don't know anything about either candidate except their party, you shouldn't be voting for either of them. And before I get flamed, yes, I am voting for Perry for Gov, but also voting for a few Democrats at the local level.

  • 2 votes
#9.10 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT
Tri in TN

Natalia-996117 TiT (nice call name)

I'm a triathlete living in Tennessee. No hidden meanings!

  • 2 votes
#9.11 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:43 PM EDT
jmorris

Is there any proof of who did this?

Well common sense should tell you that it isn't the Democrats saying don't vote Democrat so that leaves who else exactly?

If not the Tea Party or the Republicans (same people actually) then who else? Some third party in Texas thinks they have a chance if they trick voters into not voting Democratic? Maybe it is the Green Party hoping to come from behind (do you even have Green Party candidates in Texas?).

  • 6 votes
#9.12 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
Tri in TN

Or maybe it's the Democrats doing this, so as to stir up false outrage against the Republicans? Hmm, just as much proof of that as there is against the Repubs.

  • 1 vote
#9.13 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:17 AM EDT
David S Jones

Be careful, Tri in TN, you're gonna blow your back out with all that reaching.

  • 7 votes
#9.14 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:27 AM EDT
Larry-304061

David,

Actually, Tri in TN is quite correct. The flier is so stupid that it's hard to imagine anyone actually falling for it, but as has been shown by responses in this thread, the mere thought that it might be a Republican Party effort is enough to make some people vote all Democrat. (Allegedly)

Which is the more likely scenario, a ruse that is impossible to believe would work, or a ruse that causes people to actually change their vote, as claimed on this thread? In both cases it takes a gullible subject to be so easily manipulated.

jmorris,

Just so you know, it's definitely not "The Tea Party" or "The Republicans". It might be an individual that is a Republican or a Tea Party follower, but it is definitely not "THE" party or all of THE people of any political view.

  • 3 votes
#9.15 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:13 AM EDT
DS12

How do we know it wasn't a black republican...there might be one or two in Houston? Or the one from Dallas drove down.

  • 3 votes
#9.16 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:19 AM EDT
David S Jones

Actually, Tri in TN is quite correct. The flier is so stupid that it's hard to imagine anyone actually falling for it

So you two beleive that a Democratic conspiracy is more likely than what the actual evidence suggest?

Na, I'll stick with my line of thinking.

  • 10 votes
#9.17 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:22 AM EDT
Larry-304061

"Actual Evidence"? There's no evidence at all who was responsible for the fliers. Do you have evidence that the news isn't reporting?

This thread shows what the impact of the fliers actually is; some people are going to vote Democrat because they believe that "The Republicans/The Tea Party" is responsible for them. Even the inference that the entirety of any group is responsible for the fliers is laughable, moreso with no evidence.

That said, I think that either scenario is just as likely, but only one has a visible impact on voting direction.

  • 3 votes
#9.18 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:45 AM EDT
David S Jones

The evidence is what the flyers say. Not who put them there.

I hear a bark and i'm going to assume it's a dog until proven otherwise. I'm not going to make up some crazy story about it actually being a cat with abnormal vocal cords.

  • 6 votes
#9.19 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:59 AM EDT
Soph0571

I'm not going to make up some crazy story about it actually being a cat with abnormal vocal cords.

*snort*

  • 4 votes
#9.20 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT
Larry-304061

Actually, it's more like the big bowl of cat food you put down is gone and you're presuming it's the cat that ate 1 lb of food and not the dog, simply because the product mentions cat.

When looking for answers, it's always smartest to start with the person that stands to make the biggest gain. In this case, the impact of the flier on a Democratic voter's choice is dubious at best, but the impact on a Republican voter that is borderline seems to be more tangible, as evidenced by this thread.

  • 3 votes
#9.21 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
Tri in TN

What evidence is right? Just because the head of the Democrat party in that area says so? Right...unbiased source. I'm with Larry-304061 on this one.

  • 2 votes
#9.22 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:27 AM EDT
TheyreAllCrooks

Ann Richards is dead?
I could swear I saw her on TV this morning...oh wait, that was the Quaker Oats man.

  • 2 votes
#10 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

Not very nice, after all she was the one who stated this gem about "W" at the 2000 Democratic Convention:

"You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique, but a hog is still a hog."

Ann Richards had class!

  • 12 votes
#10.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

Besides we all know the model for the Quaker Oats guy was Barbara Bush!

I know, low!!!! Couldn't help myself.

  • 8 votes
#10.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:48 PM EDT
R. Donald Snyder

She's also the one who, when speaking of George H.W. Bush, said
"He was born with a silver foot in his mouth."

  • 17 votes
#10.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:54 PM EDT
Soph0571

"He was born with a silver foot in his mouth."

Oh that is priceless!!:-)

  • 14 votes
#10.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
Lola-984242

"He was born with a silver foot in his mouth."

Gotta love Ann Richards, what a beautiful woman, God Rest Her Soul. She is truly missed here in Texas.

Classic Ann Richards, "He was born with a silver foot in his mouth" she was certainly sharp witted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgeQ_y7LMRI

  • 10 votes
#10.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

My favorite is her referring to Bush I as "a toothache of a man".

  • 9 votes
#10.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:27 PM EDT
littlereddog

Ann and Molly Ivins. Two Texan women I truly miss. Those two women had bigger stones than little Georgie ever had.

  • 9 votes
#10.7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:40 PM EDT
bloozbro

littlereddog - Ann and Molly Ivins. Two Texan women I truly miss. Those two women had bigger stones than little Georgie ever had.

I agree...they were two of the best!

  • 7 votes
#10.8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT
Jimster

I could swear I saw her on TV this morning...oh wait, that was the Quaker Oats man.

Neither. It was Meg Whitman

  • 9 votes
#10.9 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:57 AM EDT
DerryGirl

There isn't a trick too dirty for the Rethuglican Tea Baggers! I'm sure that this isn't the only one out there...

  • 17 votes
#11 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT
Soph0571

Hey! I am sure as it gets closer to election day we will see many more of these stories coming out.

  • 16 votes
#11.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
DerryGirl

Hey Soph - what's the craic wi' ye? Hope all is well? And yes, the dirty lying "tricksters" will be working overtime this weekend coming up with more BS! I'm nauseous just thinking about it:-)

  • 6 votes
#11.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:17 PM EDT
Soph0571

craic's not bad so it isn't, hope everything's grand with you:)

  • 5 votes
#11.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:31 PM EDT
DerryGirl

Aye, so it t'is:-)

  • 2 votes
#11.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
David S Jones

there are some sane people here.

Oh, I'm sure. There is also "some" water on the moon. But it's buried beneath thousands of feet of rock. ;-)

  • 13 votes
#12 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
itstoolate

There are some sane folks in Texas, the problem being that they are few and far between. Definitely not enough to take the spot light away from Baba and the boys.

  • 10 votes
#13 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
Lola-984242

That's right, there are some large pockets of blue sanity here in Texas, it's just not large enough yet, but we're working on it.

  • 9 votes
#13.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

El Paso County in far, far, far, west Texas is one of the strongest Democratic districts in Texas. When I left EP, it was indeed a sad day. 85% Mexican-American, the second safest city in the US (of its size) even though it's sister city, Ciudad Juarez is the deadliest city in Mexico! Tells you something about the people caring about each other and their community!

  • 8 votes
#13.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
demmywemmy

I've heard El Paso is a great city...that and Austin. Houston maybe...but no way Dallas/FW!

  • 5 votes
#13.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:03 PM EDT
itstoolate

boy don't show your caring in Texas, you will be labled a sissy. I have know idea as to why these people are figthing so hard to keep this state in a cave? It's big, but even big can only hold so much. They think going green is walking around with cow shi! on their boots.

  • 7 votes
#13.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Soph0571

They likes them some handouts.

Show me something to back that BS up

I know I am feeding a troll but good god give me strength

  • 12 votes
#13.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Blayde

Delay the freebies for 24 hours and watch the streets fill with "people of color".

And you are not racist, less you forgot to put a satire tag on your clearly racist point.

  • 7 votes
#13.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:19 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
TheyreAllCrooks

They rewrote the history books down there in Texas, slavery never existed...thenthey gave it some new fantabulous name (Atlantic Triangular Trade)

...tricking a few black voters is chump change, that's how they roll in Texas!

  • 17 votes
#14 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:27 PM EDT
Lola-984242

As history shows, the slaves weren't even told about the Emancipation Proclamation here in Texas until June 19, 1865. They like to keep their citizens uninformed and easy to manipulate, it's just really heard these days with radio, television, and now the internet. Thank God/Goddess too!

  • 10 votes
#14.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
demmywemmy

Har har har! Oh you are so creative...how do you do it? It must be tough sitting on the 'puter all day, ignoring your ablutions and peeing in a cup lest you miss an opportunity to bless us with another one of your fresh, inspired zingers!

  • 9 votes
#14.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:46 PM EDT
Babylon of Gerbil

I just finished voting here in Texas about 30 minutes ago. Amazing number of people struggle to use the simple voting machines. Our state needs to focus on Education.

  • 10 votes
#15 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:29 PM EDT
itstoolate

They are, they're rewriting it. Texas has so many problems, but at the top of the heap is ignorance and arrogance aka Rick Perry/Texas Board of Education.

  • 12 votes
#15.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:42 PM EDT
TheyreAllCrooks


Our state needs to focus on Education.

I think they've done a fine job focusing on education.
Slavery never existed and in 30 years, the school books in Texas will probably say we've never had a black president.

  • 11 votes
#15.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

And Arizona is following Texas' lead. Crazy Gov. (Frau) Brewer wants to outlaw any history taught about the US which does not specifically show the US in favorable light. So the treatment of Native Americans is now being looked at as the Natives volunteering to have their lands stolen and volunteering to be given smallpox.

  • 11 votes
#15.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:34 PM EDT
itstoolate

I wonder if Brewer or her pack of followers realize that our government was fashioned much like it not after the Iroquois Indians who were so large in numbers(six different tribes) that they developed a central council/government. After that we took their land and gave them small pox and alcohol.

  • 6 votes
#15.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT
demmywemmy

the school books in Texas will probably say we've never had a black president.

Aren't some of the more intransigent righties already saying this?

"He's a Kenyan I mean Indonesian muslim I mean "culturally" muslim..."

  • 10 votes
#15.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

Party of No?

Damn right NO to higher taxes

No to more govt

NO to higher defecits..

No to more power to Unions..

No to socialism..

No to bad policy and bad ideas..

No to more govt control of personal lives and decisions..

I am proud member of the party of NO

  • 1 vote
#15.6 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT
Michelle-340891

Jorge: NO to presenting ANY actual ideas to fix any of the problems, not to mention a big NO to actually solving any of them when they DO have power. Why else did they COMPLETELY IGNORE immigration, education, border security, etc., for the MANY years they had control before 2006?!?

  • 3 votes
#15.7 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:00 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

GW ignorned education?

GW ignored Immigration?

GW worked with Ted kennedy on educatiom and attempted to pass an immigratio bill.

where were you?

#15.8 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT
Jack TX

GWB was in advanced negotiations with the President of Mexico to develop an immigration platform that would have worked for both countries.

Their last meeting on the topic was September 10, 2001. I wonder how that got derailed........

  • 1 vote
#15.9 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
wbbtexas

THIS is WHAT we are Dealing with, America! And Don't ANYBODY Give me this CRAP of "They Both DO IT". The Republicans, especially in Texas, and Especially since Karl Rove Became the Sick, Twisted, Evil Mastermind of the Party...is Notorious for these Shameful Shenanigans. This Is WHO they ARE!

They are NOT..."Good Americans, Just Trying to Save America from the Awful Liberals". What they ARE is Despicable. Nothing Less. Sick. Twisted. They have Warped American Politics AND American Culture For FAR Too Long. It is PAST TIME to Put these Creatures OUT To Pasture!

  • 13 votes
#16 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

There is absolutely no Democrat as stupid, hateful, and racist as TX Rep (R) Gohmert. He actually believes in "terrorist fetuses." He argued this point on the floor of Congress - that "illegals cross the border while pregnant and indoctrinate their US born children to attack the US in 20 years, when they are adults." What an idiot!!!!!!

  • 12 votes
#16.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
Brian-497171

Guys, these many, many, many, many incidents are all isolated.

The TEA Baggers are NOT RACIST, just ask their black friend.

  • 18 votes
#17 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

OMG!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!

  • 12 votes
#17.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
UnAmericanLiberal

I smell Karl Rove's stink all over this.

  • 14 votes
#18 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:02 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

Maybe - but seeing how lame it was and the cheap quality of the ad itself, I'm leaning toward Palin stink!

Afterall she has collected millions of dollars for her war chest to give to candidates, but has only given a fraction of this for the 2010 elections. The woman is cheap, cheap, cheap. The proof is that she was preggers when she eloped with her man, Todd and gave birth to a full term baby boy 7 1/2 months after the day she eloped.

Ooops, not that kind of cheap! My bad!

  • 7 votes
#18.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:46 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Soph0571

I am now trying to work out which irritating re-reg you are I am sure it will come to me. In the meantime everyone else (although i am guilty of this myself) please DNFTT.

  • 13 votes
#18.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Truthhurts or Truthmatters perhaps?

  • 10 votes
#18.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:21 PM EDT
Soph0571

Lola - i think you may be right ...gone soon! especially now we have a brand new second moderator!!!!!

  • 9 votes
#18.4 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT
Lola-984242

especially now we have a brand new second moderator!!!!!

Yay!!! I suppose poor tyler was getting spread pretty thin with the amount of reregs Newsvine has been getting lately.

  • 11 votes
#18.5 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:16 PM EDT
Soph0571

Cool huh?!! it is great I think!!! newsvine blog and metavine - for introductions....her names Sally and she looks really cool:)

  • 10 votes
#18.6 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:19 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Mustang Sally! Cool!

  • 8 votes
#18.7 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Soph0571

Yeah troll boy re-reg...we are the ones that are lame - LOLOL see ya in your next incarnation

  • 13 votes
#18.8 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Soph0571

The Truth 4 Once - deleted - enough troll now.

  • 11 votes
#18.9 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:06 PM EDT
Natalia-996117

This is almost as bad as what GOP wrestling queen McMann wanted to do in her election. Dress up people like wrestlers and have them open the doors to polling sites. But the election commission saw through her ploy to link these wrestlers with her and called her on the "no political soliciting within 100 feet of polling places." So the voters will now have to open their own doors! Thank you very much!

  • 11 votes
#19 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT
Beckyal

as usual no facts about who did it. we know that democrats are paying for many things to discredit republicans. just another liberal trying to push an agenda.

  • 1 vote
#20 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
itstoolate

See I knew that would float to the top, you guys, republicans, are too predictable. You should be able to recognize it, the rep. wrote the book on agenda pushing.

  • 8 votes
#20.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT
nishuoniDeleted
lee_atwater

It's good to hear flyers aren't real, I had one on my windshield the other day that said ...i was an @!$%#.

  • 6 votes
#21 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:24 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
Soph0571

The Truth 4 Once - you comment I delete re-reg boy

  • 10 votes
#21.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:08 PM EDT
Fed up with Republicans

If we are in a wave election, and every one is voting Republican anyway, why are the Republicans going out of their way in trying to con, trick and deceive the African Americans, Hispanics, Latinos and the Mexicans.

It is called voter suppression, and they are doing it because they fear a large minority vote could foil all of their carefully laid plans.

  • 10 votes
#22 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:34 PM EDT
dwillie

They cheat so they can win and THEN call it a wave.

  • 12 votes
#22.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:36 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

Whine whine whine

#22.2 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:20 AM EDT
dwillie

Lie, lie, lie.

  • 4 votes
#22.3 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:06 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

Speaking of LYING

Obama recently admitted the "Shovel ready" jobs that would be created if his stimulus passed ....never existed..

Is lying about jobs ..."Hope" or "change"?

#22.4 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
George Marez

Link?

  • 4 votes
#22.5 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:45 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Obama recently admitted the "Shovel ready" jobs that would be created if his stimulus passed ....never existed..

In the magazine article, Mr. Obama reflects on his presidency, admitting that he let himself look too much like “the same old tax-and-spend Democrat,” realized too late that “there’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects” and perhaps should have “let the Republicans insist on the tax cuts” in the stimulus.

Is that what you're talking about? That is a very puzzling passage, but I have to say that it's probably less of an indication of the President's dishonesty than it is of his infuriating cowardice. What in the hell is he talking about? He did let the Republicans insist on tax cuts, and he gave them to them at the expense of infrastructure spending. At the time, his Administration downplayed the idea that there were a huge number of infrastructure projects out there and ready to go.

He caved, without even token resistance, to the Republicans' wishes regarding tax cuts in the stimulus, got kicked in the teeth for his trouble, and has still ended up adopting the Republicans' lies about him as truth. Despite all the accomplishments he's achieved in office so far, this is why he's looked upon as a failure even by some people who don't have anything against his policies...or his race. He comes off like a whipped dog in that passage, forced to concede that the other side's lies about him are true. It's tragic. He has everything it takes to be truly great...except courage.

  • 5 votes
#22.6 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
Sally

#24 Deleted. Thetruth4once is banned. rereg of Amoson Andy.

  • 10 votes
#22.7 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
Soph0571

Sally - thank you!!! I knew it:)

  • 4 votes
#22.8 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:04 PM EDT
Lola-984242

Thank you, thank you, thank you Sally!!!!!!!! Yay!!!

  • 4 votes
#22.9 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:12 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

Here how CBS news reported it..

With unemployment hovering near 10 percent nearly two years after President Obama signed his economic stimulus package, Mr. Obama is acknowledging that, despite his campaign promises, "there's no such thing as shovel-ready projects."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20019468-503544.html

Obama admin used the claim there was "shovel ready" jobs just waiting for funding..

turned out they never existed...

SO wadlying about "shovel ready" jobs part of "hope" or "change"?

  • 1 vote
#22.10 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
George Marez

Why would the President say that when there are actually "ready to go" projects out there? Is he trying to hurt Democrats on purpose?

Sure, they aren't called "shovel-ready" exactly, but they do exist, according to the Federal Highway Administration.

  • 3 votes
#22.11 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:59 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

Obama admin used the claim there was "shovel ready" jobs just waiting for funding..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhXsgJAk7w

You're acting as if nothing happened between the campaign and now. Obama campaigned on infrastructure. The stimulus bill didn't contain as great a percentage of it because he cratered on Republican demands for tax cuts. Despite that, no Republicans voted for the bill. As I said before, the Obama Administration actually downplayed the probability that there were a lot of "shovel ready" projects out there. That was one of their explanations for not including as much infrastructure spending. Later on, many of those same Republicans who demanded tax cuts rather than infrastructure slammed Obama for not including enough infrastructure spending. So, now he's actually acting as if the Republicans never demanded those tax cuts, and that he always touted infrastructure spending as the primary remedy in the stimulus. He didn't, but he's such a coward, he's pretending that his opponents' lies are the truth. He's actually "admitting" to something he was never guilty of doing, and that's pathetic. And this is the guy who you all think is a terrifying monster?

  • 4 votes
#22.12 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:11 PM EDT
krounded

#24 Deleted. Thetruth4once is banned. rereg of Amoson Andy.

Ha......Sally is already on the ball. Great!

  • 4 votes
#22.13 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:00 PM EDT
Jorge-2191028

1. most of th infrastructure is STATE issue

2. Americans already pay Billion in TAXES that are supposed to go to infrastructure..

3. OBAMA promised shovel ready jobs....and it turned out to be a lie..

#22.14 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:31 AM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
hedward

Just out of curiosity, do Obama or Axlerod ever come out of their office to offer encouragement to their staffers while they post on Newsvine?

#23 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:45 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
hedward

Why don't we just issue voter ID cards so that everyone is on the up and up? What say you left wingers?

(for those of you who believe that Obamacare will save money, this is a rhetorical question)

  • 2 votes
#24 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:55 PM EDT
Blayde

For those of you who don't like Obama, wtf, are you that stupid?

  • 9 votes
#24.1 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
Plantsmantx

The ones who weren't that stupid already have been rendered that stupid.

  • 7 votes
#24.2 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:10 PM EDT
Randy McMurphy

hedward

Why don't we just issue voter ID cards so that everyone is on the up and up? What say you left wingers?

WTF does that have to do with right wingers trying to use dirty tricks to alter the election?

Voter Id is Poll Tax that targets the poor and elderly to put up barriers to deny their vote. It is also not needed, because voter fraud is virtually non existent in this country.

Guess what genius, HRC does save money 140 billion the first ten years. Close to a trillion the next decade.Where were you teanuts when Bush passed the unfunded big pharma welfare in 2003. Oh , thats right, Bush was white.

  • 9 votes
#24.3 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT
billy-witchdoctor-com

Everything because Vote Now is a democrat orginzation in Texas which has had what 90 percent of its voter registrations turn out to be either faked or multiple registrations.... Voter registration cards will allow Obama to track who his enemies are.

If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, "We're going to punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us," if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's going to be harder, and that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2......
That what this vote is about....Punishing American's because Americans are Obama's enemy...Nice job Obama, I thought Only Joe Biden was the one who should not speak....are ya raising an army to fight your enemies?

  • 1 vote
#24.4 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:24 AM EDT
Joe 6 Pack

In my state, the democrats say voter ID is discriminatory.

WTF?

#24.5 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:55 PM EDT
George Marez

I don't get why Republicans and Tea Partiers want voter ID anyway. Aren't they for LESS government? Those ID's don't make themselves.

  • 6 votes
#24.6 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:33 PM EDT
Skye-768303

Why don't we just issue voter ID cards so that everyone is on the up and up?

They already do in Georgia. There is always a bill on the docket to make voting more difficult for the elderly who have no birth certificate and no transportation to get an ID.

  • 4 votes
#24.7 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:15 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
socialjustice

Republicans lambasted ACORN with false accusations while Republicans are the ones commiting election fraud and supporting voting machines without paper trails.

The only way Republicans will win is if good reasonable people stay home and do not vote.

Republican Vison for America:

"Hell No We Can't", John Boehner (Future Republican Majority Leader if we're stupid enough to elect Republicans.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpOUctySD68

  • 9 votes
#25 - Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT
Skye-768303

The only way Republicans will win is if good reasonable people stay home and do not vote.

This is why Republicans do everything in their power to keep people from voting.

  • 5 votes
#25.1 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:48 AM EDT
Jack TX

This is why Republicans do everything in their power to keep people from voting.

And liberals will believe absolutely ANYTHING. Y'know that exiled government official from Nigeria who wants your banking details....he's really going to send you $25million. Glen Beck sacrifices infants before every show. Karl Rove is really a woman, and she's pregnant with Rush Limbaugh's love child....who will be Justin Beiber's younger brother. Please.

The only way Republicans will win is if good reasonable people stay home and do not vote.

This is Texas we're talking about...right? I see what you mean. We don't hardly ever elect republicans. They're not very popular here. We've done our best to get Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank to move here so we can send them to the senate to represent us....because we align so well with them politically......

Jesus wept.

  • 1 vote
#25.2 - Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:18 PM EDT
Skye-768303

Jesus wept.

Yes, he weeps every day over those mean spirited Republicans who would not stoop to help a stranger injured on the road.

  • 4 votes
#25.3 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT
The Truth 4 OnceDeleted
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