you are a product of your environment, not the games you play or the shows you watch. your friends, parents and things that happen around you have ten times the mental impact than something you do in your spare time to entertain yourself. And that is what video games have always been about - entertainment. Games have always been a good way to sharpen critical, as well as lateral thinking skills. most people i know can detach themselves from the games they play, and unless you believe you are master chief, Commander shepard, Gordon freeman, Altair or the clowns from kane and lynch, you arent going to go out and start running amok just because you were allowed to a few hours ago while sitting in front of your TV. the problem is with families and and the environment kids grow up in more than anything else. teach a child right from wrong when they are young and you wont have to worry about them growing up to be hitmen or psychotics. that is the rule, not the exception.
you are a product of your environment, not the games you play or the shows you watch. your friends, parents and things that happen around you have ten times the mental impact than something you do in your spare time to entertain yourself. And that is what video games have always been about - entertainment. Games have always been a good way to sharpen critical, as well as lateral thinking skills. most people i know can detach themselves from the games they play, and unless you believe you are master chief, Commander shepard, Gordon freeman, Altair or the clowns from kane and lynch, you arent going to go out and start running amok just because you were allowed to a few hours ago while sitting in front of your TV. the problem is with families and and the environment kids grow up in more than anything else. teach a child right from wrong when they are young and you wont have to worry about them growing up to be hitmen or psychotics. that is the rule, not the exception.
There will never be a ban of games as that would violate the First Amendment. However it could still be possible that games could be regulated by the government by a rating system, but that would also be a chance in hell because we have other things like a WAR to deal with and all this other shit. Video games should be the last thing anybody in Congress should be thinking of.
There will never be a ban of games as that would violate the First Amendment. However it could still be possible that games could be regulated by the government by a rating system, but that would also be a chance in hell because we have other things like a WAR to deal with and all this other shit. Video games should be the last thing anybody in Congress should be thinking of.
Look, folks. I have nothing to say about this honestly. I've said it all before and let's face it, none of these people are going to read what I'm writing. But I promised my friend I'd do it so here we go.
Ahem...
SHUT UP. YOU'RE WRONG AND NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYWAY.
"Violence has always been with us, but we've recognized it as a vice, not a virtue."
Oh? Were we recognizing violence as a vice back in Ancient Rome where they forced slaves to brutally dismember and kill each other for the peoples' amusement? Were we recognizing violence as a vice in Sengoku era Japan when it was considered preferable to disembowel yourself rather than accept defeat to a worthy adversary? What about when we stone a woman in Afghanistan because one inch of her wrist was showing for all of one second? How about the sacking of Carthage when they sprinkled the earth with salt to make sure the land itself would die? Several crusades where men butchered women and children in the name of God all over some grudge between two kings?
"We don't want to regulate games or force you to use a ratings system."
And yet you instituted a system where a team of people who would never even play games on their own because they hate them are allowed to have unchecked and unlimited censor control over this art form. A system where a game can be rated based on illegal modifications other people have made, and where a single man can defy the Constitution of the United States by banning free expression. An AO rating means a game can not be sold in stores, which is an instant death sentence for any game, and the Game Nazis at ESRB can hand out this rating at will.
"If men could sit in front of a flight simulator and learn enough about flying planes to fly them into the world trade center then what do you think will happen when a 9 year old sits in front of a first person shooter that rewards him for killing cops?"
Ah yes, Random Cop Killer 64. A rare game, mostly because it doesn't exist. People like this have these crazy ideas of what games are that are totally incorrect. It's like when I was a kid and my dad tried to tell me all rap music was about men smoking weed with their mothers.
What they also forget is that video games didn't make 9/11 happen. The hijackers may have learned to fly planes from playing flight simulator games, I don't know. But they didn't get the idea from the game. They had the idea, the game gave them the knowhow to execute it. Knowhow they also could have gotten from any book or instructor. And Hell, I'll be totally honest with you here: if you're planning on crashing it anyway I can't imagine flying a plane would be all that difficult. You could probably just wing it, considering the only really hard stuff is the takeoffs and landings, neither of which they had to do.
"There's going to be a Columbine-like event, maybe to the factor of ten. Then there's going to be a human cry within the Halls of Congress to ban these games altogether."
And then beautiful unicorns will dance through the meadows and it will rain sugarplums and pixie sticks! Oh, and while we're in Fantasyland, let's have Jennifer Lopez give me fifty million dollars.
By the way, if this is the kind of stuff you fantasize about, you need some rehab, dude.
-Knight9910
Okay, we get it. You don't like video games.
Look, folks. I have nothing to say about this honestly. I've said it all before and let's face it, none of these people are going to read what I'm writing. But I promised my friend I'd do it so here we go.
Ahem...
SHUT UP. YOU'RE WRONG AND NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYWAY.
"Violence has always been with us, but we've recognized it as a vice, not a virtue."
Oh? Were we recognizing violence as a vice back in Ancient Rome where they forced slaves to brutally dismember and kill each other for the peoples' amusement? Were we recognizing violence as a vice in Sengoku era Japan when it was considered preferable to disembowel yourself rather than accept defeat to a worthy adversary? What about when we stone a woman in Afghanistan because one inch of her wrist was showing for all of one second? How about the sacking of Carthage when they sprinkled the earth with salt to make sure the land itself would die? Several crusades where men butchered women and children in the name of God all over some grudge between two kings?
"We don't want to regulate games or force you to use a ratings system."
And yet you instituted a system where a team of people who would never even play games on their own because they hate them are allowed to have unchecked and unlimited censor control over this art form. A system where a game can be rated based on illegal modifications other people have made, and where a single man can defy the Constitution of the United States by banning free expression. An AO rating means a game can not be sold in stores, which is an instant death sentence for any game, and the Game Nazis at ESRB can hand out this rating at will.
"If men could sit in front of a flight simulator and learn enough about flying planes to fly them into the world trade center then what do you think will happen when a 9 year old sits in front of a first person shooter that rewards him for killing cops?"
Ah yes, Random Cop Killer 64. A rare game, mostly because it doesn't exist. People like this have these crazy ideas of what games are that are totally incorrect. It's like when I was a kid and my dad tried to tell me all rap music was about men smoking weed with their mothers.
What they also forget is that video games didn't make 9/11 happen. The hijackers may have learned to fly planes from playing flight simulator games, I don't know. But they didn't get the idea from the game. They had the idea, the game gave them the knowhow to execute it. Knowhow they also could have gotten from any book or instructor. And Hell, I'll be totally honest with you here: if you're planning on crashing it anyway I can't imagine flying a plane would be all that difficult. You could probably just wing it, considering the only really hard stuff is the takeoffs and landings, neither of which they had to do.
"There's going to be a Columbine-like event, maybe to the factor of ten. Then there's going to be a human cry within the Halls of Congress to ban these games altogether."
And then beautiful unicorns will dance through the meadows and it will rain sugarplums and pixie sticks! Oh, and while we're in Fantasyland, let's have Jennifer Lopez give me fifty million dollars.
By the way, if this is the kind of stuff you fantasize about, you need some rehab, dude.
-Knight9910
mtpsmaster said: Morals and Responsibility in the American society today has completely disappeared and it is a shame. As a BIBLE COLLEGE STUDENT, I myself LOVE video games. Assassins Creed, Halo, Mass Effect, you name it. I also believe that people need to be responsible. It is a sad fact that the society that I live in has to be one where no one ever takes responsibility for their actions. "Kids are smoking, it's not their fault, let's blame the tobacco industry." "Someone shot someone. It's not their fault, let's blame the guy that sold them the gun." The list goes on.
My point comes to this. If someone thinks that it's okay to go shoot someone because they saw it in a video game, they're an idiot, and they were going to go shoot someone anyway. Someone could say the same thing about a book, or a magazine, or THE BIBLE. (there is murder in the Bible you know!) All I'm saying is that people need to be responsible. If someone can't be responsible, THEY SHOULDN'T PLAY THE GAMES. Just like if someone can't be responsible with a car, they shouldn't drive.This is why games have rating systems. If a parent lets their 9 year old kid play Halo, the parent is an idiot. The games have rating systems for a reason. These kids are supposed to be playing Elmo's Counting Adventures, or Jimmy Neutron, NOT Grand Theft Auto. Parents NEED TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. No kid in their right mind is going to look at a games rating and say, "You know what, I don't think that I can handle a game like this. I think I'll buy something else." NO WAY! The kid will do anything to get their hands on that game. PARENTS, LEARN TO SAY NO!
In conclusion, I come back to Responsibility. It sucks that America lacks so much of this, and it sucks that common sense in no longer common.
Sincerely,
mt
A College Student at Lancaster Bible College, Lancaster, PA
Please gives this man an award because he totally deserves it. =]
[quote=mtpsmaster]Morals and Responsibility in the American society today has completely disappeared and it is a shame. As a BIBLE COLLEGE STUDENT, I myself LOVE video games. Assassins Creed, Halo, Mass Effect, you name it. I also believe that people need to be responsible. It is a sad fact that the society that I live in has to be one where no one ever takes responsibility for their actions. "Kids are smoking, it's not their fault, let's blame the tobacco industry." "Someone shot someone. It's not their fault, let's blame the guy that sold them the gun." The list goes on.
My point comes to this. If someone thinks that it's okay to go shoot someone because they saw it in a video game, they're an idiot, and they were going to go shoot someone anyway. Someone could say the same thing about a book, or a magazine, or THE BIBLE. (there is murder in the Bible you know!) All I'm saying is that people need to be responsible. If someone can't be responsible, THEY SHOULDN'T PLAY THE GAMES. Just like if someone can't be responsible with a car, they shouldn't drive.This is why games have rating systems. If a parent lets their 9 year old kid play Halo, the parent is an idiot. The games have rating systems for a reason. These kids are supposed to be playing Elmo's Counting Adventures, or Jimmy Neutron, NOT Grand Theft Auto. Parents NEED TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. No kid in their right mind is going to look at a games rating and say, "You know what, I don't think that I can handle a game like this. I think I'll buy something else." NO WAY! The kid will do anything to get their hands on that game. PARENTS, LEARN TO SAY NO!
In conclusion, I come back to Responsibility. It sucks that America lacks so much of this, and it sucks that common sense in no longer common.
Sincerely,
mt
A College Student at Lancaster Bible College, Lancaster, PA[/quote]
Please gives this man an award because he totally deserves it. =]
Ill probably see it for the laughs.
Want to get America on your side? Bring up 9/11 and how this contributed to it.
Look, folks. I have nothing to say about this honestly. I've said it all before and let's face it, none of these people are going to read what I'm writing. But I promised my friend I'd do it so here we go.
Ahem...
SHUT UP. YOU'RE WRONG AND NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANYWAY.
"Violence has always been with us, but we've recognized it as a vice, not a virtue."
Oh? Were we recognizing violence as a vice back in Ancient Rome where they forced slaves to brutally dismember and kill each other for the peoples' amusement? Were we recognizing violence as a vice in Sengoku era Japan when it was considered preferable to disembowel yourself rather than accept defeat to a worthy adversary? What about when we stone a woman in Afghanistan because one inch of her wrist was showing for all of one second? How about the sacking of Carthage when they sprinkled the earth with salt to make sure the land itself would die? Several crusades where men butchered women and children in the name of God all over some grudge between two kings?
"We don't want to regulate games or force you to use a ratings system."
And yet you instituted a system where a team of people who would never even play games on their own because they hate them are allowed to have unchecked and unlimited censor control over this art form. A system where a game can be rated based on illegal modifications other people have made, and where a single man can defy the Constitution of the United States by banning free expression. An AO rating means a game can not be sold in stores, which is an instant death sentence for any game, and the Game Nazis at ESRB can hand out this rating at will.
"If men could sit in front of a flight simulator and learn enough about flying planes to fly them into the world trade center then what do you think will happen when a 9 year old sits in front of a first person shooter that rewards him for killing cops?"
Ah yes, Random Cop Killer 64. A rare game, mostly because it doesn't exist. People like this have these crazy ideas of what games are that are totally incorrect. It's like when I was a kid and my dad tried to tell me all rap music was about men smoking weed with their mothers.
What they also forget is that video games didn't make 9/11 happen. The hijackers may have learned to fly planes from playing flight simulator games, I don't know. But they didn't get the idea from the game. They had the idea, the game gave them the knowhow to execute it. Knowhow they also could have gotten from any book or instructor. And Hell, I'll be totally honest with you here: if you're planning on crashing it anyway I can't imagine flying a plane would be all that difficult. You could probably just wing it, considering the only really hard stuff is the takeoffs and landings, neither of which they had to do.
"There's going to be a Columbine-like event, maybe to the factor of ten. Then there's going to be a human cry within the Halls of Congress to ban these games altogether."
And then beautiful unicorns will dance through the meadows and it will rain sugarplums and pixie sticks! Oh, and while we're in Fantasyland, let's have Jennifer Lopez give me fifty million dollars.
By the way, if this is the kind of stuff you fantasize about, you need some rehab, dude.
-Knight9910
My point comes to this. If someone thinks that it's okay to go shoot someone because they saw it in a video game, they're an idiot, and they were going to go shoot someone anyway. Someone could say the same thing about a book, or a magazine, or THE BIBLE. (there is murder in the Bible you know!) All I'm saying is that people need to be responsible. If someone can't be responsible, THEY SHOULDN'T PLAY THE GAMES. Just like if someone can't be responsible with a car, they shouldn't drive.This is why games have rating systems. If a parent lets their 9 year old kid play Halo, the parent is an idiot. The games have rating systems for a reason. These kids are supposed to be playing Elmo's Counting Adventures, or Jimmy Neutron, NOT Grand Theft Auto. Parents NEED TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. No kid in their right mind is going to look at a games rating and say, "You know what, I don't think that I can handle a game like this. I think I'll buy something else." NO WAY! The kid will do anything to get their hands on that game. PARENTS, LEARN TO SAY NO!
In conclusion, I come back to Responsibility. It sucks that America lacks so much of this, and it sucks that common sense in no longer common.
Sincerely,
mt
A College Student at Lancaster Bible College, Lancaster, PA
Please gives this man an award because he totally deserves it. =]