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Raymond Johnson Chapman plaque at Heritage Park, Thursday, March 29, 2007, in Cleveland. When Chapman was killed by a pitch thrown by New York Yankees pitcher Carl Mays in 1920, his teammates dedicated the season to him and won Cleveland''s first World Series. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

New York Yankees pitcher Roger Clemens leaves the game in the third inning against the Cleveland Indians during Game 3 of an American League Division Series baseball game Sunday, Oct. 7, 2007 at Yankee Stadium in New York. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

Boston Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein, right, talks with pitchers Curt Schilling (38) and Tim Wakefield, left, during a team practice at Fenway Park in Boston, Tuesday Oct. 9, 2007. The Red Sox will face the Cleveland Indians in the American League Championship Series. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa)

Angels fans may have seen their team swept by the Red Sox, but they have other consolations (Image courtesy "touch" Collection and MLB.com)

[Editors' Note: We must apologize in advance to fans of the Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorado Rockies for giving such short shrift to your teams in the following article, but, honestly now, you have to admit, other than you--who cares?]



THE EVIL DUMPIRE



Before I disquisit at length on the baseball playoffs, in particular the American League Championship Series between the Boston Red and Red Sox and the Cleveland Indians, there's some unfinished business to finish. And I mean finish as in The End. Let's talk about the New York Yankees. No discussion of the pathetic end to the Evil Empire's 2007 is complete without a full and loud airing of Yankees' radio broadcaster Suzyn Waldman's full and loud airing of her piteous weeping at the end of Game 4 of the Division Series. Pay particular attention at around the 2:50 mark:

Postgame Clubhouse Report, WCBS Radio, October 8, 2007

She defended her weeping in the New York Times, and media critic Richard Sandomir appeared to accept her defense:

She is an empathetic personality — her clubhouse demeanor is as much reporter as mother-confessor — so her catch-in-her-voice weeping about Torre’s probable departure was not surprising.

And I can actually relate. When Aaron Boone hit DAMN THAT GRADY LITTLE that shot off Tim Wakefield in 2003, I DAMN THAT GRADY LITTLE didn't cry. I was strong. I was a manly man. For 36 hours. And I know others who cried. And I'm DAMN THAT GRADY LITTLE over it now.

But good grief, I didn't go on the air blabbing about other people's tears:

"[A]nd the tears that you hear in my voice are coming down the faces of the coaches in that coaches’ room.”

You can cry all you want, and even do it it public, but you can't throw the coaches in the coaches room under the bus like that.

Second thing. The Rocket. That ending to Roger Clemens' career should have been satisfying to all, even if for some reason you don't think he's a greedy, mean, nasty, mercenary traitor. After all those "last" games, how fitting that the last-last game was so ignoble and deflating. And the best part. Here's the way citizens of Red Sox Nation saluted Clemens is his first-last game, on August 31, 2003, Yanks take two of three in weekend series:

BOSTON (AP) -- Roger Clemens walked off to a standing ovation and came out for a curtain call, tipping his cap and waving to fans who saw what may have been his last pitch at Fenway Park.

"It was very special," he said. "It gave me the opportunity to say thank you."

Wanna know how Yankees' fans treated the Rocket in his last-last game? Look at the expression on the faces of those fans in the photo to the right. They may be standing, but its not to ovate.



RED SOX VERSUS INDIANS



Enough about those losers. On to the winners. Cleveland and Boston have a short but potent playoff history. There was that Division Series in 1999, memorably capped off when Pedro Threw Six Innings of No-Hit Relief after having been injured in a losing effort only three days previously. But less remarked-upon, so far, but in my opinion more important, is the one-game playoff between the Red Sox and Indians in 1948, the last time the Indians won the World Series. The Red Sox had beaten the Yankees on the last day of the season to catch the Indians, losers to the Tigers, which set up a potential trolley-car (Green Line from Kenmore to Allston) series between the Red Sox and the Boston Braves, winners of the National League pennant. But, alas, bypassing a rested Mel Parnell, the Red Sox DAMN THAT JOE McCARTHY started Danny Galehouse and wound up losing 8-3. And then the Indians beat the Braves, so that's good reason for a double grudge on Boston's behalf. And we do have long memories

Cleveland and Boston. Sorry, Arizona and Colorado--even if the the AL team emerges from this series so battered that they lose the World Series, the winner of the ALCS is the beat team in Major League baseball. It sets up to be a great series, if meetings earlier this year are any indication. If you're wondering about the old "Great pitching or great hitting?" question, the two teams traded 1-0 victories this July on back-to-back nights. First Daisuke Matsuzaka beat Cleveland Ace C.C. Sabbathia, then Fausto Carmona beat Boston Ace Josh Becket. In fact, the series may be so close that it'll all boil down to the supernatural. In baseball lexicon, that means:



CURSES AND OMENS



There's no debate that the 2004 season lifted the Curse of the Bambino from the Red Sox after 86 years of torment. But isn't there some scientific law about conservation of energy or something like that? So it's a scientific fact that curses cannot be eradicated, only transformed. So the key question is: Who's got the Curse now? It was a bad one, I can tell you that. Some say the Chicago Cubs do, and there's evidence for that. Each year (now 99 going on 100) they fail increases the potency of the Curse exponentially, almost as if whatever ordinary Curse they'd possessed before 2004 has become worse by the influx of new Cursoid Energy. But I say, Cleveland got it. Citywide. The spirit of the Curse of the Bambino was not simply to lose, but to almost win, then lose. Since their last Major Pro championship in 1964, Cleveland has:

1. Gone to the World Series and lost;

2. Gone to the American Football Conference Championship twice in a row and lost in heartbreaking fashion--leading in the fourth quarter, and, just last year;

3. Made it to the NBA Finals with the brightest new star in basketball, and lost.

So, the Curses seem to be solidly against the Indians. The Omens, however, may be good, according to none other than the Associated Press:

Chapman Plaque Key to Indians Success?

Cleveland Indian Ray Chapman is the only Major League player ever to be killed on the field of play, the victim of a beaning by spitballing (spitballs were still legal then) Carl Mays, on August 16, 1920. Here's a chronology of his career. But the thing is, as tragic as that tale is, the Indians dedicated the remainder of their season to their fallen comrade, which ended in a World Series Victory. Although they won again in 1948, according to the A.P. account, it was shortly after that that the Memorial Plaque dedicated to him was removed from public view and misplaced. Although many fans remember the Indians season beginning with a blizzard that postponed or moved about a dozen games, could it really have begun with the re-discovery of the plaque? And the re-dedication of the Chapman Memorial the day before the season began this year? The Spirit of Ray Chapman won one World Series, can it win another? Or is Curt Schilling's bloody sock good for one more before he leaves as a free agent? We can ask him:





BLOGGING CURT SCHILLING



For those who see baseball as one, long seven-month interesting and engaging drama, Curt provided quite a bit of side-plot interest. He started a blog in the Spring. He's not the only Major League baseball player with a blog--all four firstbasemen remaining in the playoffs have blogs at MLBlogs: Official Affiliate, Unofficial Opinions:

Kevin Youkilis of the Red Sox

Ryan Garko of the Indians

Todd Helton of the Rockies and

Tony Clark of the Diamondbacks.

But, to be honest, I'm not sure those are real blogs. I've seen Kevin Youkilis interviewed many times and I just don't think he has that many words in him at any one time. Schilling, on the other hand, really does actually blog at 38pitches.com, (he wears number 38, pictured above) and he's got all the words in him anyone could ever want and then some. He's an internet gamer, in fact, he has a Game Development company (he plays World of Warcraft, if anyone knows what that means), and he blogs about that, baseball, fantasy football, favorite charities and, when pressed, politics. If you leave a comment, he replies when/if he can. Curt developed an amusing pattern this season. Sometimes he'd say something outrageous on his regular radio segment and end up apologizing on his blog. Or he'd say something outrageous on tv and apologize on the radio. Or say something really outrageous and apologize everywhere. My favorite was after he trashed Barry Bonds for "cheating on Baseball, taxes and his wife."

I seeded the radio apology earlier this season, but it's well worth a re-listen. For 19 minutes he backed off his accusation, then for the last minute he talked about Iraq and George W. Bush. Curt Schilling on Iraq and Bush. I highly recommend it. To get to the crazy right-wing politics part, just follow the directions already listed.

Hmm. I'm about done, but I feel like I'm forgetting something .... oh yeah. Sex.





MY DARLING ALYSSA



While poking around MLBlogs, I stumbled on a link to this People magazine piece.

Alyssa Milano's Homerun Beauty Regimen. Oh my God, I thought at first. Snark festival approaching. Obvious advice, even more obvious product plugs. Celebrity fashion line. Treehouse talk. Hot chick picture. Oh the possibilities were endless.

But then something funny happened. I got smarter there. I read a few of the comments women left on the People item, then poked around the web for other responses to the fashion line and asked myself, "Wow, these women seem really positive and genuinely sincere--is there something here I'm missing in my testosterone rush?" Women seemed to want not "Clothes for women with a team logo applique added" and not "team gear" made mostly for men, but comfortable, nice "team gear for women," of which very little was on the market. Even an ordinary baseball cap didn't quite fit women typically as well as men, and why should it? It wasn't designed for women.

So I moseyed on over to her"touch" catalog and looked again with fresh eyes. This is actually a really classy line of informal wear for women, as the fashion shoot of the Angels gear above demonstrates. Damn--she even has a line of baseball caps cut for women's thicker, longer hair. Why didn't anyone think of that before? I clicked on her "How it Began" link, Alyssa Milano debuts clothing line. She found a niche, had reliable partners, an excellent product and a dynamite business plan. I realized in a sudden bolt out of Dodger blue that her line was going to be a hit (if it wasn't already), maybe a huge hit.

Now, I had mentioned a couple of weeks ago that Alyssa Milano had all I ever wanted in a girlfriend: She's a baseball fan and a liberal Democrat. Looking at that clothing line it occurred to me that she was not only also wicked smart, but that she could very well wind up a billionaire. That's more than girlfriend material, that's marriage material.

Since, therefore, she will someday be my fiance, I can no longer allow lewd or crude comments about Alyssa Milano on my threads. In fact, I can't even allow lewd comments about the bevy of babes pictured above. However, sincere expressions of honorable and virtuous intent with respect to the young ladies pictured above will be allowed.

Is there anything else? Oh yeah:





RED SOX OVER INDIANS IN SEVEN GAMES



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Did they have empty seats in AZ tonight?

Reply#1 - Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:22 PM EDT

No poll? What a gyp!

Nice article, jack. I can see you've thought a lot about Alyssa "mint" Milano.

Reply#2 - Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:58 PM EDT

schnoo:

I hate polls because they always take the top slot which I like for my best image.

While the bro' was visiting, I showed him Adam Hobson's original Milano link. My brother is much more age-appropriate.

So you agree with me that the clothing line is a winner?

#2.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:07 AM EDT
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Damn Jack, that's an impressive span of topics! I confess that baseball bores me to tears but you held my attention and your observations about the future Mrs Gillis, unless she keeps her maiden name (like you'll care) was pure gold! Two big thumbs!

Reply#3 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:27 AM EDT

Tim:

Thanks!

If she's a billionaire, I'll take her name.

:^{)>

#3.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:05 AM EDT

Now that's a very progressive attitude!

#3.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:10 AM EDT
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I really enjoyed the way you went about presenting this information. Great job, Jack! : )

Reply#4 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:22 AM EDT

robin:

Thanks! I wasn't going to mention it, but did the sub-heads-with-white-space make it easier to read than your typical (I admit) jfxgillis article?

#4.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:40 AM EDT

Nothing goes unnoticed, my friend.

#4.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:10 AM EDT

Robin:

I got like 1,200 words in over two days of writing/research and said to myself "@!$%#! This is supposed to be a trifle!!" so I tried to figure out a way to make it easier on the eyes.

#4.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:39 AM EDT
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Our city was one that loaned its stadium to Cleveland during the blizzard of '07, so we think we should root for Cleveland by proxy.

Great article. What's all that "Grady Little" stuff about?

Reply#5 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:50 AM EDT

Epiph:

Thanks!

Damn it! I forgot. I had a beautiful link for the Snow games that I got by plowing through (no pun intended) the "cleveland-indians" tags, Indians to Play Next 3 in Milwaukee, and then I forgot to use it.

Grady Little was the manager of the Red Sox who left Pedro in instead of taking him out as he should have in the 8th inning of that game in 2003. Red Sox Nation ran him out of town.

#5.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:46 AM EDT

Jack @ 5.1

On that Grady Little thing, I'd say you need to let it go. Do Sawks fans ever let anything go?

I do have one serious concern after reading your article and it's about cursedness. Do you think that Cleveland left some of their cursiness in Miller Park? The Brewers were #1 in their division most of the season and managed to make a really ugly hash of it at the end. The Cubs worked hard to lose more than the Brewers did, but Milwauke prevailed (?) in the end.

#5.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:52 AM EDT

Epiph:

Do Sawks fans ever let anything go?

I'm still holding a grudge over what the Indians did to us in 1948, and I hadn't even been born yet. So to answer your question: Nope.

Very astute of you to diagnose possible Curse Contamination, and ordinarily I'd tell you to monitor very closely for symptoms. However, your antidote is Brett Favre. If the Packers make a great run this year, I think you'll be alright, but have Milwaukee come in for lab testing every couple of months until we know you're past the danger, okay?

#5.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:11 AM EDT
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Where's your Ray Chapman pic? The real Ray. Not that bas-relief thing.

You really need a poll on your chances of marrying Ms. Milano.

And you need an old-timey Indians logo to incur the wrath of Aunk, hetep and can't get no respect.

Reply#6 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:13 AM EDT

schnoo:

That gorgeous Chapman pic is only 90 pixels wide so it would've gotten overwhelmed by the other images, but you can get it by clicking the link under his name in the Chapman paragraph.

As for your poll, if I had any guts I'd go to her blog and post a link back to this article. I'm shy around girls, though, so, I'd say my chances are between zero and zero.

I've incurred enough wrath around here lately.

:^{)>

#6.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 AM EDT

Jack @ 6.1

Oh, I don't know, you have that Ph.D. to wave around as an attractant AND better than that, you can tell her what a sartorial disaster you are and ask for a makeover. Women love having a living Ken doll to work on.

#6.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:54 AM EDT

Epiph:

Oh, the makeover idea is fabulous! But shouldn't I let her think the idea came from her instead of asking directly?

#6.3 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:38 AM EDT

Jack @ 6.3

Then I guess you will need to meet her in person. A live disheveled professor is worth a thousand words.

#6.4 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:45 AM EDT

Epiph:

And she was in Boston all last week, damn it.

#6.5 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:11 PM EDT
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Reply#7 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:15 AM EDT

We all made mistakes in our wild youths. I forgive her.

#7.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:23 AM EDT

Why was it banned? Banned from where? That's just dumb, I have seen worse ads.

#7.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:25 AM EDT
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Hey. HEY! The Rocket already 'retired' from the Yanks already. He was given a warm fuzzy NY sendoff. So how many sendoffs should he get? At his age, he should have been home watching that last game on the couch anyway.

Interesting how the Bosox are playing for the pennant but are still cackling about the Yankees. The curse for those guys is that they'll always be measured against the pinstripes.

Who's your daddy?!

p.s. I heard Alyssa Milans is a witch.

Go Cleveland! (Holding my nose).

Reply#8 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:06 PM EDT

Kath:

Oh, you put me in a tough spot. I prohibited lewd and crude comments about my maybe-someday fiance, but your comment wasn't crude. I guess I'll just let you two settle it between yourself before the bridal shower.

Anyway, at a good chuck of that Yankee cackling was about Clemens, and it sounds like we both have reasons to dislike him now!

#8.1 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:22 PM EDT
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Jack, doncha remember that Alyssa Milano was a star of that show 'Charmed'? That's where my 'witch' comment came from. Some fan you are!

The Tribe was eviscerated by the Sawks last night as you know. DARN.

Reply#9 - Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:21 PM EDT

Kath:

Jack, doncha remember that Alyssa Milano was a star of that show 'Charmed'?

Of course I did. I've been obsessed with her ... er, following my future fiance's career ... very closely for a while now.

As a matter of strategy, Game 1 is actually relatively insignificant in a seven-game series. Games 3 or 4 are the crucial ones, although it was most excellent for later in the series that Beckett had such an easy time. Not only did he win, but in a worst-case scenario, he's set up for a start on short rest in Game 4 if the Sawks have to have a win there being down two games to one.

#9.1 - Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:36 PM EDT
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Jack - I'm not a cryer.....but watching Torre pat Clemens' check on the mound in Game 3.....that nearly brought a tear to my eye.....I was very very touched and I'm no Rocket fan.

Reply#10 - Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:09 PM EDT

lisa:

I do feel for Torre. Seriously. Lots of Red Sox Nation does. We like Mo' and respect Jeter.

But Clemens? No way.

#10.1 - Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:21 PM EDT

Lisa, 'Clemen's check'? Was that Freudian? lol

#10.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:42 PM EDT

Kathleen - LOL! Good to hear from you---I usually see my own typos done in haste but I hadn't seen that one- good "catch" - no pun intended......of course I meant "cheek" and while it might have been freudian it was probably just a regular old multi-tasking error but who knows?

#10.3 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:38 PM EDT
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She is an empathetic personality — her clubhouse demeanor is as much reporter as mother-confessor — so her catch-in-her-voice weeping about Torre’s probable departure was not surprising.

gillis,

Unless she was weeping with joy, I don't understand it. Torre needs to go.

Reply#11 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:38 AM EDT

jazz:

Looks like Tore's staying. Why else would Steinbrenner pick today to give up control of the Yankees?

He wants to be able to re-sign Torre without looking like a jerk for giving that ultimatum.

#11.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:41 PM EDT
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i couldnt stay up long enough to watch the entire gagne meltdown, but i did feel like the red sox had it won after manny homered in his buddy ortiz, who had to run out the double play attempt on his bad knee. manny quickly went down 0-2, but tim mccarver barely had time to say, "manny is a hitter not fazed by being down 2 strikes" before he hit what appeared to be a pop-up foul ball into the red sox dugout.

when mike lowell, a former yankee, hit the next pitch into orbit, i figured the game was over. it seemed like the red sox were having way too much fun to lose.

gagne isnt worth the insurance they have to pay for him to ride on airplanes.

Reply#12 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:34 PM EDT

firsty:

McCarver is full of it and we've been laughing about the "0-2" crap ever since he said it. Manny's been awful on 0-2 all year.

They really can't bring Gagne back into a pressure situation; they should simply declare him "disabled" like Torre did with Clemens. That gets him off the roster for this series, and if the Sawks win, the next.

#12.1 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:39 PM EDT

i took it to imply that manny is somewhat too dim to even realize he's at 0-2. but i dont object to mccarver being less than ironic and more like a moron.

#12.2 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:11 PM EDT

Why is Tim "Another-terrific-stop-by-(whomever)" McCarver still on TV?

#12.3 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:54 PM EDT

firsty:

Manny isn't dumb, he's eccentric.

schnoo:

Beats all hell out of me.

#12.4 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:36 PM EDT

I don't know anything about Manny in the world outside of baseball, but he's one smart hitter. When he has that dazed look on his face as he steps out, that's him concentrating on what's likely to come next.

You can't be a .313 lifetime hitter in the Bigs these days and be dumb.

#12.5 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:53 PM EDT

schnoo:

We've seen him set up a pitcher by missing a change-up early in the count only to drive the same pitch ferociously later in the count.

#12.6 - Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:18 PM EDT

manny ramirez was put on this earth to hit baseballs. he's not a real bright guy, but he seems like a lot of fun. david ortiz is ramirez's spokesperson, because, really, nobody wants manny talking to people who are using a tape recorder or are otherwise inclined to repeat what he said.

but, he hits baseballs. hard.

#12.7 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:31 AM EDT
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firsty:

Julian Tavares was doing the "Manny Spokeman" thing earlier in the season but, uh, to put it gently. Tavares wasn't much of an improvement.

:^{)>

Reply#13 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:06 PM EDT

Now that the DiceK debacle seems to be ending in diaster...I can only hope the Red Sox will repeat that mistake and sign A-Rod

Reply#14 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:34 PM EDT

jazz:

The Yankees will extend A-Rod during the ten day window after the World Series. That way, they get to keep the subsidy from the Rangers for the next three years.

#14.1 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:46 PM EDT

I don't see the Yankees letting ARod go......let's just say I hope they don't.....he's awful in the post but awesome otherwise and imho was key to getting them into the playoffs this year (not to mention he's in my top 5 'hot Yankee'ometer'---this year moving into 1st place for the first time ever on that meter.) My little sister was at the game where he became the youngest new member to the 500 club....how cool!

#14.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:12 PM EDT
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Jack,

This seems like the best place to lodge some complaints.

First, House was pre-empted for the AL playoff game.

Second, I looked in on the game when the Sox were in the 3 home run thing. I could not believe that messy sack of laundry who hit the third home run. Manny somebody. Sorry, but I will definitely have to root for Cleveland now.

Reply#15 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:16 AM EDT

Epiph:

We call fans like you front-runners.

:^{)>

Although believe it or not, Manny just might be the most finely-tuned and conditioned athlete on the field in this series. He is a little sartorially challenged, though, I admit, but I like that.

#15.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:13 PM EDT
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An interesting presentation, Jack.

Reply#16 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:21 AM EDT

Shaun:

Thanks!

#16.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:13 PM EDT
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Go Rockies!!!!!!!!

Reply#17 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:35 AM EDT

Go Rockies!!!!!!!!

Ditto. :)

#17.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:05 PM EDT
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Jack & Epi - while I do not keep a "hot-sox-ometer" like I do for my Yankees ---IF I did, no way would Manny be on it.

Reply#18 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:58 PM EDT

Lisa @ 18

You are a wise woman. That guy has all the appeal of an unmade bed.

#18.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:03 PM EDT

Epi - agreed - I have to tell ya I just love that word "sartorially" that you and Jack have been batting around. Anyhoo- the Manny's "unmade bed" look cannot be ascribed to any of my Yankees....George would never ever never allow it.

#18.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:49 PM EDT

Epiph, lisa:

Turns out, we may not need Manny anyway:

3rd Battalion, 126th Aviation: Red Sox Nation Mobilizes For Assault on Cleveland

:^{)>

#18.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:31 PM EDT

Jack - well - you do have the big guns - but I say you still need Manny.....

#18.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:31 PM EDT
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Great Alyssa Milano info!

Reply#19 - Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:42 PM EDT

I just now discovered the Talkn' Baseball group. Good article, thought I'm surprised you didn't cite tom Hanks' character's line "There's no crying baseball!" in A League of Their Own.
You got the outcome right. I always said, "My heart says Cleveland in 6, but my brain says Sox in 7."

I do wish he Rox had won one.

Reply#20 - Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:04 PM EDT

urbane:

I just now discovered the Talkn' Baseball group.

Pretty bad timing!! Regarding the No Crying citation, I couldn't because the NYTimes article on the same subject did it.

Just got back from the parade. The back-to-back sweeps at the beginning of a career gives our manager Terry Francona an all-time World Series record. Beckett figured to end it in five if the Rox had won one, but I really like Terry having that record.

#20.1 - Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:44 PM EDT