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Are We There Yet?

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Are We There Yet?

I started writing about the subprime crisis back before it was a crisis. I was warning of taxpayer bailouts on the way and pointing fingers at those I believe to be responsible for the massive increase in household debt over the past decade. Since last September, however, I have stepped back because we ended up in a true financial crisis – one that could have seen the shut down of credit cards and ATM machines across the country. In such circumstances I give the authorities a pass as I do not want to find out first hand what happens when the grocery store shelves are bare (I do not own a gun). At this point, however, I think we have averted the total collapse scenario. I am not bullish on the economy or the stock market just yet, but I am no longer worried that my access to cash will be shut off. If we have indeed averted the nightmare and are now on the road to a long recovery period, then it is time to go back to asking the tough questions about how we got here and what to do about it. I think we have arrived at this point and it is time to start holding people and institutions responsible for what has transpired.

I am very angry with some of the back door dealings and subversions that have occurred in connection with bailing out financial institutions at the expense of United States taxpayers. From Paulson's "no review" $700 billion bank scheme to revelations regarding the disposition of taxpayer funds through AIG, the manner in which this situation continues to be handled is, I believe, a disgrace. For example, when I hear Goldman Sachs tell us that the $12.9 billion or so it received from AIG through taxpayer funds was unnecessary because it was properly hedged against AIG risk I automatically think, "well, OK then, give it back." So where is it? The arrogance and insensitivity to the general public is obscene. What we have had is a devastating bout of bad behavior by our financial and political institutions. What we need now is to find those responsible, hold them to account, recover the proceeds of their ill-gotten gains the best we can, and prevent this from happening again. This is in addition to shutting down the insolvent institutions before they create even more bad loans in their attempts to become profitable. So far I don't see any of that happening. What I do see is Citibank charging friends of mine 30% interest on their credit cards while at the same time this institution has access to virtually free money from the Federal Funds market and infusions from taxpayers on giveaway terms. This is too much for me to reconcile even with the current financial crisis and the pressure on the banking system.

There are several things that currently trouble me a great deal. The back-door contribution of taxpayer funds through the toxic asset purchase program to the very financial institutions that perpetrated this massive destruction of household and financial sector balance sheets for private gain bothers me. The very fact that Timothy Geithner is Treasury Secretary after his tenure at the New York Fed during the creation of this crisis (not to mention his tax "issue") is troubling. The push to concentrate regulatory power into the hands of the Federal Reserve, the very institution responsible for overseeing our financial system during the drive to leverage up the United States household and financial sectors for the profits of the financial sector (and, more directly, those individuals within it) seems out of touch. The "modification" of mark-to-market rules is shady. The blatant conflicts of interest when the former and, as suggested by Matt Taibbi, the current CEO of Goldman Sachs construct a taxpayer bailout for AIG that provides the most financial gain to - Goldman Sachs - is astounding. The refusal to take the steps we ourselves tell other countries they need to take in times of financial crisis is embarrassing. (For a good read on this point see This article by Simon Johnson in The Atlantic.) These are momentous events, and though I detect the populist rage (for example, this piece by Matt Taibbi in The Rolling Stone) it seems to me that we as a population are at risk of letting this entire affair pass us by without holding anyone accountable or truly learning the lessons we need to from it.

I think we are there – at the point where we begin to take seriously the need to recall the army of finance, accounting, and legal experts who are compensated with outsized rewards to find ways they and their clients can circumvent the regulatory schemes put into place to protect us from this very problem. Those brilliant thinkers who can conceptualize the gray areas between legislative and regulatory words and intent to find avenues of attack for profitable private gain without concern for the impact on the population at large – the public risk. We also need to cleanse the system of the influence money, in all of its cancerous forms, that results in politicians carrying the torch for a favored industry. This will require at least two steps. Step one is to find out exactly what happened, who knew what when, and hold those who behaved recklessly to account for their actions. It is easy to find out who they are – just follow the money while ignoring the cries of "witch hunt" and "class warfare" that will be shouted in protest by those responsible (and their shills). Step two is develop a set of regulatory rules and enforcement that are principals based where actions that are contrary to the spirit of the regulatory framework bring swift consequences. The regulatory changes must address both the finance industry and the political process to remove the incentives for reckless legislation and deregulation. For example, if you are a business that borrows short term funds and invests those funds in longer term assets for profit, you are subject to regulation whether you have a bank charter or not. If you provide any assurance against the risk of loss you are an insurance company. If you engage in any of these activities without registering to be regulated you are promptly shut down, fined, and prosecuted. Once registered you are subject to capital requirements and oversight. Ultimately, these are the things that need to be done.

The more we allow taxpayer rescue of financial institutions without holding those institutions to account from this point forward, the more we are doing a disservice for the American taxpayer, and the more likely it is that we will pass through this crisis into another one in the future. I believe we have arrived at the point in time when we should be swiftly moving from crisis aversion to long-term cleanup – lets get started. I hope the Obama administration, as infiltrated as it already is by insiders from Wall Street, steps up to the plate and begins to take charge. The approach to the auto industry last week was a refreshing wake up call that there is a limit to what taxpayers will stand for. At the same time it highlights the enormous benefits bestowed on the financial sector even after such monumental failures, and the concurrent lack of accountability for the devastation on our economic lives. I want accountability and I want it at the institutional and individual levels. I want a complete investigation by qualified independent investigators. I feel that until we demand it we are no better than those who should be held accountable because we are being complicit.

*A note on my belief that there are specific people to be held accountable:

I believe that any seasoned lender understands that you cannot turn a package of bad loans to people with no income into an AAA security through "structuring." At some level, people had knowledge that what was going on was bound to collapse at some point. Perhaps the analyst didn't, perhaps the loan officer didn't, but at some level people knew what was transpiring. I don't really care if they had insurance from AIG, they should have demanded to see AIG's total exposure and taken that into account. What happened represents, at the very least, reckless activity and I believe could be characterized as fraud in certain circumstances. The facts revealed in the very incomplete "investigation" into the rating agencies participation in this mess revealed this to be true, and I would bet that any true investigation into the behavior of the financial institutions involved would result in similar findings. This Bill Moyers interview of William Black provides an interesting perspective on whether or not fraud was actually involved. In any case, whether what happened meets the legal definition of fraud is something we should be investigating and, if the answer is no, then we probably need a new definition or standard to protect us from this behavior in the future.

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{"commentId":6356988,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

I think it's time to demand accountability. I hope the Obama administration realizes that if they don't do it their adversaries will use it against them in the future even though those adversaries may be largely responsible for much of the deregulation that helped the problem explode into a crisis. Of course, it seems that the political machine has so much culpability here that all parties will just want this to die a quiet death without ever turning over the rocks.

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  • 7 votes
#1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":6360018,"authorDomain":"RETLAW"}

Hey guy--thanks for a very interesting article. I agree with your conclusion: lets have fully qualified, but independent, research on what happened at the various businesses which received taxpayer bailout funds and follow through with punishment of any violation of the law. The greedy need to be shown the errors of their ways.

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  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 2:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":6361025,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

Hey Retlaw, thanks for the comments. I have been biting my tongue for a while now, but I really do believe there needs to be accountability. It seems we have lost this at high levels in our society in general. Everyone wants to "look ahead" and not look back, but if we ignore what just happened we don't learn from it.

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  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":6507245,"authorDomain":"tgolferman"}

Hey pole. Great article. I thought you might have been laying low for that very reason. I laid low due to exhaustion for a while. I started taking some courses as a hedge for what's happening in the economy and to enhance what my company delivers in our customer relationships.

You are right. President Obama must get the message that he's headed for trouble unless he gets to the business of holding people and institutions accountable. With the pain caused by this bank heist the possibility of the emergence of a viable 3rd party is good. Ross Perot almost pulled it off and he didn't have this type of problem to help with the effort. If Obama doesn't get the message, I'm ready to help finance an online effort to do just that. By the way, the PBS program NOW had a program dedicated to the rating agency failures. A gentleman interviewed on the program appeared to me to have admitted to fraud. He certainly seemed like he didn't consult legal counsel before the interview, unless he knew he had protection in the highest of places. Another gentleman interviewed was fired for not putting his AAA rating stamp of approval on a CDO. Put both interviews together and the President, C.E.O., C.O.O, C.F.O., and board should be indicted.

Isn't this tea party crap a laugh. They are mostly Republicans that sat idle while Bush, Blackwater, and Halliburton were looting the treasury and turning a blind eye to the financial industry. Isn't it amazing how much attention the mainstream media is giving it?

Keep up the great work. Take care.

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  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:16 PM EDT
{"commentId":6509602,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

Hey tgolf. I agree on all fronts. I have to look for that NOW program - maybe I can find it online? I think it was obvious ratings were being purchased by issuers and lots of people looked the other way while they made lots of $. I think you summed up the tea parties perfectly:-)

What course you taking?

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  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":6515931,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

That NOW program was very good. It cut through a lot of the BS you get about this whole crisis. It is available online here:

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/446/index.html

Thanks tgolf.

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  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":6362700,"authorDomain":"kimee"}

I agree, palecolaw! There needs to be accountability for this mess and the guilty need to be prosecuted! I am sickened by this, and the mere fact that we even need to force accountability for it makes it that much worse. I don’t know if you happened to see the interview of Tim Geithner on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos?" George asked some really tough questions and of course, Tim sidestepped them. Tim was an easy read so it wasn’t hard to figure out his answer. Tim is a real lowlife and needs to be watched. If you would like to read/watch the interview, you can find it on my column or here. Tim did admit there is going to be more losses. I’m wondering what the price tag on that will be? This was some of the comment:

STEPHANOPOULOS: What is the next shoe to drop? In talking to business leaders over the last couple of weeks, I hear a lot of concern about the commercial real estate market. And from bankers especially, they're concerned that as unemployment rises, their credit card defaults could really go through the roof?

GEITHNER: There's no doubt there's more losses ahead for the financial system, but George, we've had a lot of adjustment already. One of the things about the American economy is, change happens here with brutal force, much more quickly than it happens around the world. And we've already had -- you know, we're 18 months into this, and we've had...

Also, I found this to be very interesting.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But one of the things you're hearing from the banks is in part because they don't want all of these new restrictions, they may not sell these legacy assets.

GEITHNER: That is a risk. And it's very important that people recognize that. To get out of this, we need banks to take a chance on businesses, to take risk again. We had a long period where banks were taking too much risk. The challenge for us is that they take too little now.

This really made me raise an eyebrow!

STEPHANOPOULOS: So Congress should be braced for another request?

GEITHNER: No, I'm not saying that. I just saying that the important thing -- and Congress, again, has already moved, really, before the administration took office, to authorize a very substantial amount of resources. And we're moving very quickly to put those to work for the American financial system. And where we've done that...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But they took the funds out of the budget to pay for the next round of bailouts.

GEITHNER: Well, I wouldn't -- you know, that was about '09 -- I mean, that was about the '010 budget, not the '09 budget. But look what's happened already, George. You know, where we had moved, and we moved very, very quickly, much more quickly than governments had typically in the past. And if you look at what's happened in housing, even in small-business lending, you're seeing significant effects already in opening up these markets, bringing interest rates down, and that has very powerful effects in the American economy.

So does this mean we're still going to be bailing out the banks come 2010?

This is just a small example of the corruption that is still going on.

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  • 5 votes
#2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":6363214,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

They can't have it both ways. Either many of the banks are insolvent and should be shut down or they are just experiencing a crisis of confidence and need help to begin lending again. If you believe the latter, then there should be no further need for bailout money. If you believe the former, then shut down the bad banks and get on with it. Instead, we are expected to believe that the banks are not insolvent yet they require huge infusions of taxpayer dollars - they want it both ways. That alone tells you we are not being told the truth by the politicians and regulators, and that leads to additional taxpayer anger. The only hope right now is that the "stress test" identifies what we already know but what the politicians refuse to acknowledge - many of the banks are zombies and need to be shut down. If that is the result I will be very pleasantly surprised.

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":6393435,"authorDomain":"kimee"}

awe.........but they believe they can! And this will continue until we stop them. I wonder at what point will the people say enough is enough! With all that has been revealed, we should be very angry and protesting, but we are not! The American people continue to move the line when our government crosses it. Instead of pushing them back and holding them responsible, we allow them this freedom. This has gone on for so long that it has sent a clear message to our government and lobbyists that they can do as they please.

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  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 10:19 AM EDT
{"commentId":6396416,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

I was agree. Accountability has been lost it seems. Maybe we vent too much of our anger posting on the Internet rather than marching in the street?

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  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:15 PM EDT
{"commentId":6401659,"authorDomain":"goldnmypoc2"}

Organize, I'll be there with you

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  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 3:40 PM EDT
{"commentId":6381993,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

I never realised that polecolaw was a bleeding heart liberal.

But good read, thanks.

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  • 6 votes
#3 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 4:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":6382597,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

Hey Martin:-) I am very liberal - on some issues. I can be quite conservative on others. In general I am a social leftie and a fiscal righty, but things have become so messed up at this point that we need some reallignment.

I have a question on this point - am I a bleading heart liberal because I want those who pervert the system to their advantage, leaving a bloody mess for the tax-paying public to clean up, held to account? Because I want us to learn from this mess to prevent the next one? Is that the "liberal" part because I thought that was just basic social responsibility. If it is, then what is a conservative, someone who wants total freedom to bring down the financial system, get bailed out by taxpayers, and continue to collect that big fat bonus? I am a bit confused about the liberal label in this context. Please enlighten me!

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  • 6 votes
#3.1 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 4:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":6383177,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

Greetings, polecolaw

Conservative:

The banker is worth the money he gets, otherwise he wouldn't get that much.

The banker is right to exploit any loophole and grey-zone in regulations. In an ideal world there wouldn't be any regulations at all.

Let's hope the government crashes in the process, then we won't have to worry about those leftie issues like SS/Medicare in the future.

Why not start a war, I'm feeling bored.

In few words.........

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  • 5 votes
#3.2 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 5:04 PM EDT
{"commentId":6384315,"authorDomain":"polecolaw"}

OK, I am definately a bleading heart liberal! Thanks Martin:-)

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  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 6:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":6392509,"authorDomain":"goldnmypoc2"}

You bet we are there and it's time for investagations into this mess that cries insanity on the part of many.

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  • 3 votes
#4 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
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