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Immigrant workers reshape post-Katrina New Orleans

In the three years since Hurricane Katrina, immigrant laborers have transformed the rebuilding city, forging support networks, establishing businesses, packing churches and starting families.

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this town was built by slaves, thieves, carpet baggers and bad politicians, this is just something that is happening all over the country...

new orleans has always been a hard town, but the pluses, like the food, the atmosphere and heritage out weigh any downs.everyone here has something to offer, and most love living here, no matter their heritage. this town accepts many different influences, always has, always will.

i could never live anywhere again and be as happy.

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Reply#1 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:38 PM EST

Last I checked an immigrant waited in line to come to the US.  These people have broken the law, federal law, not just a minor traffic traffic here.  Please stop calling these people immigratns, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS, simply put.  They assume the identities of US citizens and Lawful Permanent residents, casusing them undue harm.  Does anyone ever talk about the diseases that they bring to our country?  These people are not vaccinated and aour working in our food chain.  Doesn't that concern anyone?????????

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#1.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:49 AM EST

Concerns me a lot. Can we deport all illegals to New Orleans since they seemed to have found a home there.

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#1.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:28 AM EST

not IMMIGRANTS-

GREATLY concerns me as well.  Illegal Aliens are taking over the USA.  Period.  We are at war...no one is awoke.

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#1.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:40 AM EST

The sad thing in next storm we will have to endure another three years of minorities wining about how the government did not do enough for them after the storm. We were hit with a hurricane this year and it barely made the news. It is not news when it affects middle class white people, but put one black person on the TV screen and we need to have a telethon. The next things is all the street signs and everything will need to be changed to Spanish. Just one more piece of this craphole we used to call America gone.

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#1.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:19 AM EST

ToC: I hate it when one group is put before another. Sicken.

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#1.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:24 PM EST
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Illegal Alien schools! Illegal alien clinics! Lines to send money "home". The millions of unemployed Americans looking for something to do should grab shovels, dig a trench and shove New Orleans into the Mississippi River. The illegal alien invaiders can paddle it "home".

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Reply#2 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:40 PM EST

AMEN, maybe it would work, the paddle and or a shovel in calif, arizona, new mexico and my home state, Texas. Illegals, are destroying my/our country.

pk

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#2.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:34 AM EST

It is is because native born Americans don't want to do the work that the illegals are willing to perform, that there is a niche in the labour market for the illegals.

This has been a Dr. Zook post:  "Just enough truth to be believable."

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#2.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:49 AM EST

The only people that believe in the “

Americans don't want to do the work that the illegals are willing to perform” are the ones with Degree.

Americans who are not rich and did not go to collage will take the job.

Americans that apply for the jobs do not get them for they expect to get a descent wages, where as the illegals will do it for under minimum wage.

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#2.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:10 AM EST

I'm sick of hearing that Americans don't want to do the jobs illegals do. Well, my friend, my husband is a master carpenter who can't get work in the construction field because of the number of illegals that will work for $8 an hour whereas my husband desires a living wage. He has worked in this field for over 20 years. Construction is now being done by illegals. A friend of mine has a drywall company and he can't get work because he get underbid by contruction companies who hire illegals for minimum wage.

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#2.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:34 AM EST

Its over.  America is lost.

The solution to this problem is not very politically correct and will not be implemented in time.  Congress does not have the backbone.

Just do me one big favor before we all end up living in a third world sh*thole, knock off the "diversity is our strength" crap.  Perhaps the next moron to say that should be forced to move to New Orleans so that he could enjoy a little "diversity" himself.

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#2.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:43 AM EST

Dr. Zook:

I'M Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo TIRED OF THE PROPAGANDA line:

Illegal Aliens do the jobs America's don't want to do. And illegals keeps our country going....

LOOK AT MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are the same people coming here to the USA.  The same people.  The same great helpful hard working people........

WHY IS MEXICO SO MESSED UP?

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#2.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:43 AM EST

Doc, you just don't get it............it's our politicians that need to be gotten rid of then the illegals !

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#2.7 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:06 AM EST

How is it that the Democratic party supports the illegals yet complains that wages aren't high enough?  You can't have it both ways!

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#2.8 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:54 AM EST

So do they pay tax?  no they don't, but they claim our tax money!

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#2.9 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:22 PM EST

Straight Talk:  in the context you are asking, Mexico is so messed up because of there aren't decent paying jobs to be had.  It doesn't matter how willing one is to do a job, if there is no job to be done.  It’s Third World country dude, their economy sucks.

Chuck T:  Then get rid of the politicians.  I keep hearing ad nauseam from Americans how crappy your politicians are or how your system sucks, etc but I don't see much action on fixing the situation, just endless whining about how bad it all is.

Here's a wild idea:  How about legislation that gives US Immigration inspectors the ability to enter a work site and demand papers that show that the workers on the site have the legal right to work in the US?  For each illegal worker found the employer is subject to a $100,000 fine.

It seems to me with all the Americans complaining about illegal workers taking US jobs that there ought to be broad support for legislation along those lines.


This has been a Dr. Zook post:  "Just enough truth to be believable."

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#2.10 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:01 PM EST

What used to be a melting pot is now just a mess. There is no America any more. There is Little Italy, Little Mexico, Little Cuba and every other person who comes into this country, dumps on our heritage and laws and turns it into a smaller version of the mess they left or were thrown out of. The United States is going down the toilet and we are all watching it happen. While our economy is dropping like a rock and our elected official are all cashing out every country in the world is buying huge chunks of American soil. In ten years they won;t have to conquer us they will own us.

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#2.11 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:07 PM EST

Illegals do pay taxes. when they buy gas, food, pay rent - because they don't own ( property taxes paid by the owner). Income taxes make up a very small % of all taxes earned. I would guess that the avg illegal pays as much taxes to live in the US as a citizen. And what is the american heritage if not some italians, irish, british, germans, asians and africans? Man syick your heads in a history book once in a while.

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#2.12 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:38 PM EST

isaidwhat- Yes they do pay in sales taxes when they purchase things. They do not pay income taxes. In no way do illegals come close to paying as much taxes as do we citizens. They drain our Government programs and cost us BILLIONS of dollars a year. So you need to do a little research before you start saying things like that. Our economy would be so much better off with out them.  If they want to be here then come here legally.

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#2.13 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:07 PM EST

dr zook why don't you go to mexico and stay there you can zook it up all you want I'd say you were ignorant but that's a lack of knowledge so stupid probably fits

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#2.14 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:53 PM EST

Wow 1landscaper aren't you the clever guy!  Gee, you made so many intelligent comments in your post and gave so many facts and statistics that I just can't think of any way to make a rebuttal.

What an amazing incredible genius you must be!  You are right up there with Newton and Einstein!  I have seen some brilliant posts on Newsvine but your was the most brilliant of them all.  You should get a Nobel prize for that one.

Golly gee but you are so amazingly intelligent!  I wish I was smart like you and could come up with words of genius like, "You are stupid."  What an absolutely brilliant comment!  So pithy and precise!  So elgantly worded and sensible.  That's right up there with Plato's "Republic" and the "General Theory of Relativity"!!!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too.

This has been a Dr. Zook post:  "Just enough truth to be believable."

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#2.15 - Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:13 AM EST
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here we go again. the "mexicans" are taking over, again, and the govt. is  not doing a "damn" thing about it.  there were no mention of "illegal immigration" on the campaign trail by the "monkeys" trying t for the white house, which will be "la casa" within 30 years!!! so long, america>

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Reply#3 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:09 PM EST
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Its good to see the illegal slave lab.... er illegal day laborers helping out the US by providing rediculously cheap labor, paying no taxes and sucking tax payers money by sending their kids to school, using the hospital emergency rooms and flat out getting arrested for committing crimes to make ends meet.  Ah Latmerica!  What a country!

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Reply#4 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:41 PM EST

I'm thinking very seriously of organizing a movement to stop paying any federal tax...........this country is a sham

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#4.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:09 AM EST

Don't worry about not paying any federal taxes, there are no paychecks to have taxes removed, no work, no tax basis

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#4.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:13 AM EST

Well, think about it! Americans complain a lot but are the first to help illegal labor. Especially businesses because companies are cheap and want spend the least possible!

Look at the history!

If illegal didn’t get picked up on the corners to work, why would they stand there everyday?

Americans encourage illegal labor by hiring illegal immigrants, sending jobs overseas; having products made in China, etc.

What is anyone doing to prevent that?

 

As an immigrant to this country, I take it personal because it’s not easy and cheap to come here legally. Plus, I pay taxes too…and A LOT of taxes. And if I wanted to give money away, I’d give it to charity!

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#4.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:54 AM EST

If they have work, they should pay tax, but wait, they dohn't! and claim benefit using our tax money!!!

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#4.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 PM EST

If they have work, they should pay tax, but wait, they dohn't! and claim benefit using our tax money!!!

There ya go. Why not take their taxes since you''re giving them work anyway????

But companies won't. They know that if they take taxes, they will have to pay taxes!

I think the govrnment CAN do something about it, but will they ever??

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#4.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:27 PM EST

here, here Cris. They problems that they are complaining about were created by the america. Its very hard for a politician to deport someone who is cleaning their pool, raising their kids, and remodeling their house for a " price you wouldn't believe".

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#4.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:30 PM EST
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the latinos are ruining one of americas great cities, and the government instead of cracking down on all the illegals, gives them schools and clinics? sickening! i hope the immigrants are targeted even more by the gangs and thieves, hopefully they'll leave and The Big Easy will be able to keep its heritage.

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Reply#5 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:50 PM EST

Latinos ruining it?  Dear American, the fatherless welfare children highlighted during Katrina ruined it looong before the Latinos arrived.  At least the Latinos will work, until they become immersed in free entitlements and become militant like the California illegals.

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#5.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:06 AM EST

Correction: the Latinos are ruining ANOTHER one of America's great cities.

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#5.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:29 AM EST

What a selfish thing to say! These people are trying to make a living for themselves and their families and YOU'RE saying you hope they get robbed by people NOT willing to work?

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#5.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:55 AM EST

Your right lisalee, that would be wrong.  I say push them into the gulf and let them swim back to their own POS country.

We could employ a lot of people to do the pushing.  Round em up!

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#5.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:11 AM EST

Lisa - a lot more of them would be willing to work if the wage structure was not undercut by the illegals.  Still, though, I am sure you could raise it a few bucks an hour and many would still be too lazy to do the work themselves.

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#5.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:57 AM EST

Lisa, these people have their OWN countries (very PLURAL) Countriesssss to make a living within.   There is nothing right, correct, or acceptable about all these people from other countriessssss who are breaking the laws of the USA to be here, live here, and work here.

Regardless of how 'welcoming' different factions are to all these illegal immigrants...they don't seem to have the basic integrity to NOT break the laws of the USA and sneak/over stay visas to BE here.   It costs this country toooo much in $$$$, crime, and all the benefits that these folks stand with their hands out to receive.

USA needs to take care of HER citizens FIRST and get the borders/ports/accesses secured YESTERDAY!!  

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#5.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:45 PM EST
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This just makes me sick. All these illegals over here getting Government help. I think the Doctor who is helping them should be arrested.  Also every time an illegal sends money home it takes away from the value of the dollar. They do not pay taxes on that money and then send it home. Why are our local police departments not arresting these illegals? They are breaking the law by being here. I was involved in a car accident a couple of months ago. It was not my fault. The illegal hit me. When the police arrived he had no insurance or a drivers license. The police let him leave. He did get a ticket, but come on. That illegal is not going to pay for it. I am stuck paying my deductible not to mention my insurance probably will go up. We better get a grip on this situation. I don't care what those illegal groups say. These illegals have NO RIGHTS here. We are the ones with the rights.

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Reply#6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:32 AM EST

"They are breaking the law by being here. I was involved in a car accident a couple of months ago. It was not my fault. The illegal hit me. When the police arrived he had no insurance or a drivers license. The police let him leave. He did get a ticket, but come on."

Same thing happened to me out in Houston.  I was sideswiped by a guy running a red light.  He admitted to being an illegal, had no insurance or license, and was allowed to leave.  He had a big truck, I had a sedan.  His truck drove off fine, and I watched him disappear off into the distance.  My car was mangled pretty bad, had to have it towed and pay a couple thousand dollars to repair it (money that I didn't have since at the time I was having trouble finding work in the state, I was looking for construction work but every job I found in the city required me to speak Spanish fluently, and mine was well below basic).

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#6.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:15 AM EST

Kenny,

As much as they would love to, the U.S. Gvt. will not give law enforcement the ability to enfoce immigration law.  They can not check the status of anyone until they are arrested.  They can not walk onto a job site and ask for green cards. 

Even if they could, the illegals are stealing American's I.D.'s and using them.  They are a scourge, and yes, none of them have insurance, or driver's licenses for that matter.

Check into your local laws and find out why the police are doing anything, then contact your politicians and get them to change the laws.  Give the police the authority and that would help.

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#6.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:19 AM EST
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And, by whom, are these illegalsbeing paid "cash?"  Are you telling me that your have a consruction site and no company foreman?  If NO wwants to tolerate this "takeover," they deserve to be taken over and be lawless.  Simple as that. 

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Reply#7 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:59 AM EST

Betz, to answer your comment directly, the government needs to get off their politically correct and spineless a$$ and enforce the laws they make.

I'm a home improvement contractor in the DC area. I can speak for what I see every day. Most companies hire a "legal" business and pay them as subcontractors. Those "legal" businesses hire the illegals and pay them cash. I make it very clear to anyone working on my projects, I will not tolerate this activity. I pay legal Americans only (by the way, I don't have any employees and try to hire small business owners that do the work themselves). Here's the problem; there is NO way for businesses to find out if the SS numbers are stolen or not. People love to blame the "rich" business owners. If the government would come up with a way to identify illegals applying for a job that made sense, I would support huge fines if they were caught. Right now, we can get sued (by casa whatever) if we ask.

I can't begin to say how offensive it is when some will say illegals work harder than Americans. The jobs they do are mostly crap. Not their fault, they don't know better and think they did a great job. You can work your tail off, and at the end of the day, crap is still crap!

 

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#7.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:10 AM EST

I have a great idea for the wimps on capitol hill. They can write another law to start intergrating Americans back into the work force and off unemployment: 

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION - ALL COMPANIES THAT HIRE BLUE COLLAR WORKERS ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE ONE LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZEN FOR EVERY TEN ILLEGALS. ;O)

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#7.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:53 AM EST

There is or was a system for checking social security numbers, but he Democrats were trying to stomp it out last time I heard...

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#7.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:01 PM EST
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All contributing to Nagin's "Chocolate City"!!!

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Reply#8 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:08 AM EST
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don't any america's want to work.. just bum of the goverment.

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Reply#9 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:08 AM EST
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I hate to say it, but it seems to me that people are ignoring some incredible facts about New Orleans:

Quoting the article:

But for every hopeful family, there are others who feel imprisoned by the city.

One is a gaunt, 32-year-old man from Oaxaca, Mexico who spends his days on a dingy mattress, recovering from a bullet wound.

The man, who asked that his name be withheld because he is in the country illegally, was walking from a nearby discount store at the end of a work week. It was an opening for armed robbers who target immigrants because they are known to be paid in cash and are reluctant to report crimes.

"They were just boys, maybe eighteen," said the victim, who was treated at a local emergency room, where he had no choice but to report the crime. 

This is the reason why there are so many unemployed in New Orleans.  It's the U.S. capital of crime and violence and people don't feel safe.  And it's not that the illegals are taking the jobs.  It's that the jobs that are available are ones that Americans find beneath them, and therefore, go unfulfilled until a Mexican illegal comes here and fills the need.

And Latinos often carry cash on their persons.  It's a practice that, whether you're an illegal Latino or not, needs to be stopped.  Open an account at a bank, get your check directly deposited.  Withdraw the cash you will need once a week.

I have a dear friend from D.F. (Distrito Federal a/k/a Mexican Capital) and he is here illegally.  He is an incredibly hard-working man.  Works two jobs so that he can send money to his wife and two girls in Mexico.  We ride the bus together in the afternoons.  I have never met a more decent man in my life.  When I asked him what he had asked for Christmas, he said:  "Nothing, you know, I wish I could see my wife and two girls (they're named Maria de Los Angeles and Yesica) but I know I need to stay here and work hard so that we can have a better life.  You know [us] parents--we always want better for our kids than we ourselves had."

So don't tell me that Mexican illegals are taking the jobs away.  It's that the jobs that are available are not jobs that unemployed Americans want to do anyway.

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Reply#10 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:12 AM EST

"It's that the jobs that are available are not jobs that unemployed Americans want to do anyway."

Precisely.  This reminds me of a video shot during Katrina: a camera was on some well-fed welfare mother who said, "Who gonna feed mah bay-bays?!" 

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#10.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:18 AM EST

The immigrants carry cash because that is the safest way to keep it. They cannot open bank accounts without a permanent address and photo ID. If they leave it where they stay, other immigrants there are likely to steal it while they are out working. It's all a part of this dysfunctional illegal labor system.

They are paid in cash because the employers know they are working illegally, and paychecks would leave a paper trail proving the employer broke the law by not withholding income taxes and paying unemployment insurance premiums.

The workers are only half the problem, and wouldn't be here if the drastic punishments the posters here suggest were applied to the law-breaking employers, not the illegal workers.

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#10.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:03 AM EST

"It's that the jobs that are available are ones that Americans find beneath them, and therefore, go unfulfilled until a Mexican illegal comes here and fills the need."

 

Actually, that theory was already debunked quite a white ago.  After that stupid movie came out about what would happen if all the Mexicans just disappeared from the country, claiming that we would die without them, more than 150,000 Americans signed a petition sent to the White House stating that they badly wanted those jobs, that the only reason they weren't working those jobs was because they were being denied the positions for not being Mexican and speaking Spanish.  I was number 80-something thousand on that list.  The jobs that they are working are the EXACT jobs that hundreds of thousands of Americans want, but simply are being denied.  Upon being denied, there forms this ridiculous claim, that you're repeating here, that the Mexicans are working the jobs that Americans don't want.  We want those positions, we just don't have a choice anymore.  Of course Mexican illegals are taking the jobs away.  That's nothing more than common sense at this point.  Take one of them away, there's an American ready and willing to fill the spot.  All that we need is for the requirement that we speak Spanish to be removed, and not have us be discriminated against for not being Hispanic.  Sorry, but that accusation of yours has long since proven to be a bogus claim to justify certain actions.  We want the jobs, we just can't have the jobs because of what's going on, the "safe haven" cities making it even more difficult for us Americans seeking those positions to be hired.  I'm not saying anything about who works hard or not hard enough, but to say simply that illegals are working the jobs that Americans don't want is laughable on every level.  Illegals in taking the jobs are making it so that Americans are denied the positions, making it so many know not to even bother applying.  The response from that movie pretty much summed it all up.

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#10.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:10 AM EST

I agree.  The most predominent reason for being denied employment has been my inability to speak fluent Spanish.

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#10.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:02 AM EST

I agree that illegals from Mexico and Latin America are mostly hard working, but they are still illegal!! When people try to stereo-type legal Americans saying they will not do this or that kind of work because it is hard  is pure BULL-S--t!! Personally I have done many of the jobs illegals have done and probably some even they won't do at low wages!! You can go to any inner-city or suburban area around this country and find tons of legal Americans in the day labor halls waiting for opportunities to work. And with a nose-diving economy it will only get worse. I have worked in day labor practically from coast to coast and there are always plenty of people willing to work.  The last day labor facility I worked at was in Las Vegas, Nevada and before I left there, it was full everyday and 99% of them were obviously LEGAL!! If this country does not close the flood gates of illegal immigration the misery index for legal workers will continue upward-----rapidly.

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  • 3 votes
#10.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:25 AM EST

What a beautiful story!!!. I feel like puking. Your latino friend is still breaking the law. And how do you know how hard he works, do you follow him to and from his job.

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#10.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:41 AM EST

I say you want the job that the Spanish immigrant has, and you need to know Spanish, I guess you have only one choice:  learn to speak the language the employer demands.

So, still.  No argument from me.

Buzzorn:  I see my friend every day.  Which tells me he goes to work every day.  I've even seen him on the ocasional Saturday that I work--he works 6 days a week.  At the McDonalds, he works every day--I've been to his workplace, I've seen him.  And he's an extremely polite man.  And he speaks English.  So all of you who feel that because you're not bilingual you're not getting the jobs, well, take a cue from him--he's bilingual, and he took the time to learn.  While being unemployed, your time would be best spent learning a second language and not whining on Newsvine.

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  • 1 vote
#10.7 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:44 AM EST

It seems that your friend is a decent, hard working, honest family man and America needs more quality immigrants like him. Unfortunately, when he illegally snuck into our country, there were also many dope dealers, thugs, gang bangers, welfare leaches, thieves, murderers, rapists, cop killers, and child molesters who snuck in with him. There are millions of them. Illegal aliens murder thousands of innocent Americans every year.

If you are really his friend you will help him become a legal immigrant and that starts by getting the hell out of this country and getting in line with the millions of honest people who have waited for years to become citizens. The wait is large and long because politicians don't care. They are too busy working to get re-elected. More attention would be paid if Americans begin to attack and rob politicians as well as illegals.

If you or anyone reading this care to view the most important video ever made about immigration, Google:  youtube immigration gumballs

Millions of others have viewed this video and it should be required viewing for all Americans, especially politicians.   

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  • 2 votes
#10.8 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:58 AM EST

they are the only group of immagrants that are unwilling to learn english , so now it is a requirment that we learn their language f off. One of the requirements of becomming a us citizen is that you learn english, so they get a free pass and we are required to learn their language, something is amiss in your thinking and for whining we're getting close to fighting words there. you are unamerican fact

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  • 2 votes
#10.9 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:00 AM EST

Oh landscaper, I'm not un-American. If anything, I am letting you know that the demand for bilinguals is there--if you want the job, be like the bilingual illegal immigrant and take the time to learn the language that is in demand. And I do not pull punches. Try intelligent and civil discourse for a change.

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  • 1 vote
#10.10 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:11 AM EST

You want me to be cival after the wages in all construction trades have dprpped 25% in the last 20 yeares, and you say I need to learn spanish to work in my country  I won't pull any punches either you are part of the problem

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  • 2 votes
#10.11 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:24 AM EST

Porque el americano debe aprender español para poder trabajar? En los EEUU se hablan muchos idiomas, pero predomina el ingles. El que viene de afuera debe aprender el ingles.  Do illegals work better then americans? no!, they just get payed less by greed business people, lack of gov't enforcement of the immigration laws. An indifference on the part of way to many American that  look the other way and do not turn them in. American Corporations have moved their industry out of the USA to cheaper labor markets and we have let them do it. Because we still buy their products that they import back to us. We have  stopped buying made in America and have also stopped hiring Americans. But sitting around  this web site and whining about it is not going to solve the problem. Go out and take those jobs back, report the hiring of illegals. But a last that is not the American way. Let them move industries out of the country, Let the illegals take your jobs, heck it's more fun for you to whine here  then go out and do anything about it. By the way, I am retiered Military , American, bilingual, and very against throwing a lot of blame around and get off your tushes and start taking America back

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#10.12 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:37 AM EST

Landscaper:  I respect your view, but I think wages have dropped in response to supply and demand.  I will agree to your disagreement with me, and viceversa.

Happy holidays to you, may these holidays bring you peace.

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  • 1 vote
#10.13 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:39 AM EST

"never met a more decent man in your life"???

Try having friends that obey laws ,pay taxes,and other numerous things of our country.

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#10.14 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:41 AM EST

 Hall escribio:  Porque el americano debe aprender español para poder trabajar? En los EEUU se hablan muchos idiomas, pero predomina el ingles. El que viene de afuera debe aprender el ingles.  

Hall:  Entiendo tu punto--creeme.  Por eso digo yo--mi amigo, a quien estimo muchisimo por su etica de trabajo y de familia, deberian de hacerle mucho mas facil el proceso de emigrar a los E.E.U.U.

 Hall wrote:  Do illegals work better then americans? no!, they just get payed less by greed business people, lack of gov't enforcement of the immigration laws. An indifference on the part of way to many American  look the other way and not turn them in. American Corporations have moved their industry out of the USA to cheaper labor markets and we have let them do it. Because we still buy their products that they import back to us. We have  stopped buying made in America and have also stopped hiring Americans. But sitting around  this web site and whining about it is not going to solve the problem. Go out and take those jobs back, report the hiring of illegals. But a last that is not the American way. Let them move industries out of the country, Let the illegals take your jobs, heck it's more fun for you to whine here  then go out and do anything about it. By the way, I am retiered Military , American, bilingual, and very against throwing a lot of blame around and get of you tushes and start taking America back

And I agree that an awful lot of complacency took place in the mind of Americans that allowed industries to move out of the U.S., but it's also the excessive regulations.  Let's put the blame where it belongs.  The illegals do not have the regulations in place--Congress and the U.S. government make it difficult if not impossible for companies to keep costs low in order to be able to compete in a global marketplace. 

And thank you for your service.  I am sure you don't get to hear it enough.  It's because of you military folks that we get the chance to speak our minds right here on Newsvine.  So thank you and have a wonderful holiday season.

To DollarBill:  My friend abides by the laws and I am going to help him abide by all of them here shortly--we are hoping in our office to help him get a stay of deportation--he's been continuously here for several years.  And he does pay taxes--he works for McDonald's.  The fact that he's using an alias right now does not mean he doesn't pay his taxes.  Why are you people so un-American?  America was founded by immigrants... the very people whom you say are destroying the fabric of this country are the ones who built it up in the first place.  Be grateful to those who went seeking freedom--it's because of them (and our soldiers) that we get to spout off here on Newsvine.

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  • 1 vote
#10.15 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:46 AM EST

Unemployment stats for Nov. 2008: U.S. 6.5%, New Orleans 5.0%
 

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#10.16 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:49 AM EST

I disagree.  This man who's making money for his wife and kids in Mexico wants a better life for them as a family.  What kind of family life is he having if he never sees them!!!  Tomorrow or the next could be his last day, and so what's the point?!!  If he's not even with them, he's not spending good quality time with them and THAT IS what's truly important.  I realize that one needs to make money to feed and stay healthy, but it's not our fault that the Mexican government is so corrupt that he cannot make a decent living in his own country.  It is a global trajedy, not just in Mexico, but again, who ever said that the U.S. of A. has to taken the burden of it all!!

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#10.17 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:53 AM EST

lkessler; i have to dissagree on why the wages are cheaper, as you say I'll leave it at that Merry Christmas to you and your family

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#10.18 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:56 AM EST

It is purely greed that we have illegal immigrants in the US.  Illegals are willing to work for SLAVE wages.  Companies are happy to pay as little as they can for wages and turn their heads on the law.  Americans are happy to pay less for services and turn their heads on doing the right thing.  All involved are doing the WRONG thing for America.  Once one company hires illegals, the rest of the competition is at a disadvantage, so hiring illegals becomes a necessity. Americans will work, but they should not work for slave wages. 

 

The real cost for illegal labor comes in the use of services they get, including use of the roads, not to mention the health care they get for free, the education of their children they get for free when they don't pay income taxes (it is true that some do pay taxes, (but this is diminishing as employers are worried about the red flag the paid taxes raise).  You and I are paying for all of the services illegals are getting by being here.  Hospitals in California, Florida, etc. are going out of business because of the high level of unpaid services.  You rarely hear of the real cost.  This gives their employers a huge break the rest of us pay for.  If employers had to pay for healthcare and education for their illegal workers, they generally wouldn't hire them.

 

It is wrong to allow illegals to send money to their families.  This is money out of our economy, which loses the multiplier effect and shrinks our economy.  It is a shame they live in poverty at home, but we owe nothing to those families in the home countries; we owe jobs and support to our citizens first.  Until we are serious about and well on the way to eliminating joblessness and poverty to the lowest possible level right here in America, we should be doing nothing for anyone else.

 

We also need to be looking at the legal immigrants who are here on work visas.  There are a lot of citizen IT professionals that are out of work today while we have many tens of thousands of Indians, Chinese, and Pakistanis working here in IT.    We need to send them home and give their jobs to citizens.

 

Finally, more than anything language keeps people together or separates them.  We should be doing all transactions in the US in English, not because it is better than Spanish, but because it is the language of the majority.  Anyone who comes to the US should learn to speak English as soon as possible.  I am willing to spend tax money to help here, if necessary.  But I am not willing to spend tax money to support more than one language.

 

Life today is tough around the globe, but we need to support America First.  We should be spending our money and making economic decisions that help America First.  Buy American where you can, If you have money for vacations, vacation in America.  Make every decision in a way that maximizes the positive effect on the American Economy.  If we all acted this way, not only would our economy be in better shape today, there would be no illegal immigration - ZERO.

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#10.19 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:59 AM EST
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About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election: Number of States won by:

Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Democrats: 580,000
Republicans:2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1

Professor Olson adds:

"In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

HELP STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.......MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD: http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?series=vdggl1&gclid=COO0gcLGx5MCFSgtagodA3cbCA


 


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  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:23 AM EST

Stop illegal immigration and our WELFARE STATE in the inner cities. 

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  • 5 votes
#11.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:41 AM EST

Can we also stop the welfare state in the rural areas, where everyone from the small farmer to the giant agri-business factory farms get government subsidies to grow their crops, or even to not grow them. 

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  • 3 votes
#11.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:09 AM EST

A small amount compared to what is handed out to the cities, but yes if that is what it takes, do away with all welfare except to those "really" in need.

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  • 4 votes
#11.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:12 AM EST

rob-bot214 - let's do it.  But one more thing - none of you can ever complain another day about the price of food again, EVER!  Government support payments to farmers act more like a ceiling to farmers than a floor.  I am all for cutting out all these payments, inner city and rural.  Just never complain about food prices again!  You liberals never want that part of the deal.

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#11.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:52 AM EST
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Immigrants and "illegal aliens" are not the same thing. It's cute how the media bunch them together.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#12 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:27 AM EST
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$7.8 million dollars in medicaid, prenatal and birthing for Hispanics and illegals alone, is too much for the out of work American tax payer to have to pay,  especially when we are trying to pay for the $700, billion bailout for the economy. 

This is just one city will illegals and new immigrants and i don't care where you come from.

It could be immigrants from Norway coming here to have their free "citizenship anchor babies".  

Americans are tired of the double treatment,  the double standard and footing the bill for them to fornicate up a citizenship ticket.

It's not their fault.  It's the govts.,  and It ours.  Americans out of work should move in and take the construction jobs.

Americans all should write to Congress, call, sign petitions asking for no Tax-payer handout or medical care that is free. 

Double standards,  IF we pay, they all should pay, especially when they are having all the fun and all the sex for the baby.

Nobody gets that much sex do they???

Go to: NUMBERSUSA.COM           sign up for their "action/fax petitions network".   It's free.

It's education too.  Letters that are only a few lines that teach what  each bill is, regarding immigration, that is about to be passed in Congress and which politicians are against it.

Send it to all your friends.  Ask them to do the same. 

Go to:  Alipac.com      it's the same kind of site,  educational information

Go to:  IMMIGRATIONCOUNTERS.COM       this lists all the figures, numbers, costs for each

                                                                  illegal, anchor babies, incarcerations, emergency

                                                                  rm care, educational costs for their young, etc.

Go to:  LA VOZ DE AZTLAN                       This is an online Hispanic News, printed in English,

                                                                 based in LA that preaches hatred of whites, Jews,

                                                                 and our American Govt. that they use.  They also

                                                                 have/had articles referring to siding with terrorists,

                                                                 and helping them escape back into our contry.

                                                                There was even an article regarding how terrorists

                                                                have hidden nuclear bombs here.  This may have

                                                                been deleted because it was reported to the FBI.

At any rate,  they teach, "RECONQUISTA"  or "SILENT WAR".   Dr.s like Dr. Work who help to

birth their babies are only helping them to overtake our country eventually and to overtake

our culture. 

Exuse me by the last time I looked, it was our territory, built by our ancestors who fought and died so that our grandchildrens-grandchildren could have a country and a homeland to call their own.

Are we really going to let anyone and everyone steal it from us?

And for those of you who wish do harp on the old song and dance routine,  "America is a free nation built by immigrants, for immigrants. My parents were immigrants".........well

guess what?   NEWSFLASH!!   We can no longer take on the entire world and their offspring.

                                                We are in financial deficit and partly because we support the

                                                 fornicating illlegals.  We are being polluted by crime, filth dirt,

                                                 garbage, gangs and running out of water.  Our schools are

                                                  no longer able to provide our own children with descent

                                                  educations because the finances and resources are being

                                                  overtaken by these new immigrants, illegal and otherwise,

                                                  that are using us.

New Orleans is a French and Creole city, founded and built by them.  It's sad to see it become another Miami, Cuba, Mexico, San Diego to Los Angels  Ghetto.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#13 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:39 AM EST

"New Orleans is a French and Creole city, founded and built by them".

You forgot, Spanish (NOT MEXICAN), Italian & Irish.

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  • 1 vote
#13.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:36 AM EST

You have some real serious issues my friend.

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  • 1 vote
#13.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:56 AM EST
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PE Obama should spend his infrastructure money on building more prsions. Have three levels of imprisonmnet. first time offenders for drugs and the wall street greedy etc go to the first level. Second time offenders go to the second level. Third time offenders get put away for life. Each level would be a more difficult surrounding with less privleges. We need more prisons not more welfare. And get serious on the war on drugs. This alone would put 1 million people to work.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#14 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:52 AM EST
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its always been the same..the irish ghettos turned into italian ghettos, then it turned into the black ghettos and now its turning into the mexican ghetto. who's next?

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  • 2 votes
Reply#15 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:03 AM EST
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"Immigrants reshape post-disaster New Orleans"

Yep, they sure have reshaped the city, more murders, more thefts, more gang activity, more Prostitution; but hey, such a small price to pay for having these poor loving immigrants in the city.

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT THE LEFT OUT "ILLEGAL" IN THE ARTICLE!!!!! 

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  • 4 votes
Reply#16 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:32 AM EST

Rockachaw:  they sure did.  That's a fact.

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#16.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:48 AM EST
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As the economy continues to tank and the immigrants keep coming, having tons of kids and sucking the American tax payer dry, the real hard-working American citizens are going to get more and more angry. If politicians don't open their eyes and put a stop to this, bad things are going to start happening. We are already seeing this in some of the cities where people are committing crimes against hispanics/latinos/mexicans or whatever they call themselves. I am not condoning this, it's just the way things are going and it is going to get a lot worse.

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Reply#17 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:40 AM EST
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There's nothing to even discuss here...illegal alien is an illegal alien. Get them all out of my country and stop all this socialist crap!

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  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:46 AM EST

I agree that socialism for illegal immigrants is a horrible problem.  What I do not have a problem with is people like a good friend of mine, who works two jobs 6 days a week to support his family in Mexico.  He even asked me how he can go about getting himself here legally.  I work for an immigration attorney, so I told him I would help.

He's willing to become a legal citizen.  He's willing to continue working hard and stop breaking the law.

Why do we make it so difficult for folks like him to become citizens?  That's my question.

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  • 1 vote
#18.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:50 AM EST
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Allow me to rephrase that.  ILLEGAL aliens are reshaping Louisiana.  We have the highest unemployment rate among our own citizen that  we have had in a long long time.  So they hire illegals to do the work, because the illegals dont need to charge as much, they dont have things like insurance and bonding, for their businesses homes or cars, and they dont pay income taxes on their earnings either.  Not to mention that a good deal of them send the money back to Mexico to their families.  This means almost none of the money is going back into our economy, and our fellow Americans are jobless.  All of this so a small handful, maybe even only a couple people, can make exponentially more money than they will need while the rest of us are suffering?  Capitalism is a great system, no doubt, but it needs to be fair and regulated, it wasn't so much the ideas behind communism that brought it down either, it was mostly the corruption.  They will take all of these layoffs and never give the jobs back when things get good, and rehire overseas after the economy recovers and still raise their prices despite a much much cheaper labor supply, just like the normal practice since NAFTA and the Free Trade Agreement came to be.  If they will not let us have control of our country, as guaranteed by our Constitution and the sacrifices and suffering and perserverance and victory of our forefathers and ancestors, then there remains only one solution, and it is one that George Washington among many many others was proud to do.

 

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 1 vote
Reply#19 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:48 AM EST

This just in: U.S. unemployment 6.5%, New Orleans 5.0% . We do not have the highest unemployment rate as compared to the past or to the rest of the country.

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#19.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:52 AM EST
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It's just a matter of time before we get fed up with these people, and it needs to be soon!!  My grandfathers who served in WWII would have kicked these illegals in their asses a long time ago but we've all turned into a bunch of sissy liberals who think they need rights and free healthcare, etc.  Do you want to know the MOST annoying part?  As a healthcare provider who went to  7 years of college, often the uneducated spanish interpreters make more $$ per patient than I do.  And why?  Because they are one of the few hispanics that actually learn the language.  You should see how many hispanics think that I should learn their language so that I can provide them with better healthcare.

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Reply#20 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:00 AM EST
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What an ideal target for the INS!  Sweep em up and out while you have them in one place.  We seem to be missing the boat again before it pulls away from the pier.  More taxpayer dollars to illegals to obtain cheap labor to rebuild something built in a hole.  Amazing! 

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Reply#21 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:07 AM EST

Now there you go getting all sensative again, FP!! lol!

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#21.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:10 AM EST
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When will AP learn that these illegal aliens are NOT immigrants, they are parasites on the economy and social services of this country.  Their employers do not contribute to the tax base in New Orleans, as they pay them under the table and they certainly do not pay into the federal tax system.  They believe that they are "entitled" to free medical care for the "anchor babies".  No politician wants to admit that illegal aliens have contributed heavily to the economic situation in this country.  Many bought homes using tax ID numbers and took advantage of subprime loans and now we are to bail them out????  You cannot have over 30 million illegal aliens in this country without an impact.

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Reply#22 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:09 AM EST
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Who's going to support those 30 to 40 babies born A MONTH to illegals by this one Doctor alone. We are because while they send their money home they support themselves here by leaching off our already stretched thin social services. And why aren't the "displaced persons" sitting on their lazy " when are you gonna build me a house" arses doing this work they claim to want ! The people of Mississippi rolled up their sleeves and got to work ! I've visited from New York, made friends in and love New Orleans , but an armed services friend of mine who was sent down there BEFORE Katrina to assist said the mutts were looting before the rains even came. They didn't evacuate , not because they couldn't , but because they knew they had free raine to pillage while the place was emptying. They didn't expect the devastation that came.WAKE UP PEOPLE , AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE HELLS HAPPENING !    

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Reply#23 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:12 AM EST

What the Hell is wrong with us ? Our so called leaders have stuck their heads in the sand (don't want to lose the spanic vote) . What choices are left for us ? Shall we let it go on until it is too late or is it already too late ?  Will at some point American's arm themselves and stop this invasion ? Our culture is being trampled on enough is too much !  Anyone have any idea's ?

This Makes me Sick ! Screw them all and herd them up and bus them back and build the wall and arm it !

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#23.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:48 AM EST
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Thank you to the legal immigrants.  To the illegal invaders, get out.  Illegals getting targeted by crime?  I am sorry, but good.  It means other crimminals are doing the goverments job.

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Reply#24 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:15 AM EST
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All of America that houses illegal aliens know that the U. S. government is making the wrong choices in this situation.  But, the people making the rules are ignoring it.  I don't know how we are supposed to get their attention.

The auto workers make $28.00 an hour.  They have another $50.00 in benefits per hour.  Illegal aliens make $6-10 an hour.  They get food stamps, subsidised housing, free medical care, pay no income tax, and draw welfare checks.  They carry no insurance on their automobiles or their life.  They have no retirement plans.  All those costs are picked up by the Americans in their town.  So, tell me, what are their benefits worth.  I'll bet if you add it up, it's well over $60.00 per person.  So, doesn't that make them on a scale with the auto workers?

I could work for $10.00 an hour if I didn't have to pay taxes, insurance or retirement and live just like I am living now. 

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Reply#25 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:21 AM EST
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Everyone needs to keep a close eye on the Senate and the Congress, they will try to shove another "amnesty" bill down our throats in this new administration.  So carefully watch the bills that are beng proposed.  Placement of individuals "sympathetic" to finding an immigration reform solution to make all of these illegals citizens are being place as Secretary of Homeland Security, Secretary of Commerce and Secretary of Labor.  So stand by the flood gates will be opened.  The only immigration law reform we need is to do away with "anchor babies" and make US citizenship harder to achieve then just being born here to illegal aliens who truly do not value this country.  It is a slap in the face to individuals who have traveled the long process of legally immigrating into this country.  Why should illegal aliens be given a free ride into citizenship.  3 million were given amnesty in 1986 and less then 20% have bothered to become citizens.

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Reply#26 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:39 AM EST

It was the conservatives beloved Reagan that started this BS going with his broad "amnesty" program, which was a major error.

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#26.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:55 AM EST
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My nineteen year old brother has been looking for a job in fast food for two months now! Do you know why he cant get a job at McDonalds? Because hes not hispanic (were black/white) we look hispanic, but as soon as he opens his mouth and the Mexican/Ecuadorian/Hondurian Shift Manager realizes hes a US National, game over. Now I am sue if some of you on here saw him you would assume  hes another minority that dosent want to work, but thats simply not true. Low wage jobs are almost impossible to get because of the influx of hispanics, they dont demand proper wages,lunch breaks, health insurance......so because US Citizens expect our employers to treat us correctly, we suffer.....and Americans come in many different colors, everyone is suffering because of this, African Americans, who allready have to try twice as hard to get a job, are being imposed on by illegals as well, I get sick of the welfare comments on this board, and the illusion that many of you have that all African American women do is sit at home, have babies, and collect welfare and food stamps, this couldnt be farther from the truth. The majority of Welfare in this country is going to recent immigrants from Latin America.

African Americans accounted for 60 percent of the decline in the
number of poor persons in America between 1996 and 1997,"

The truth of the matter is, and what the media dosent want white people to see, is that most black people get up and go to work EVERYDAY,  most single moms, two parent families....ect. Most black people DONT live in the ghetto, that is a huge misconception. Black families have been quietly exiting the inner city ghettos for the better part of the last twenty years. This dosent make the news though.

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Reply#27 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:41 AM EST

Good comment.

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#27.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:56 AM EST
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Remember if the jobs were not there the illegals would not be there.  Go after the companies that are using these guys!  54% of the construction workers are illegal is what the article stated.  Should be pretty easy to show up at a work site, not just to catch the illegals, but to bust the b*lls of the companies who hire them.

These companies are doing this illegal act themselves to increase their profits.  You can't tell me in this economic climate that there are no construction workers from the US.  What many of the companies probably won't like is that they would be union workers.  Meaning better pay and safer working conditions.

Illegals won't make a fuss when their boss tells them to do something unsafe because they don't want to rock the boat.

Go after the source!!!!!!!!!

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Reply#28 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:42 AM EST

Capnclyde, I will never defend a company that knowingly hire illegals, they should be hammered with fines. But how do you check someones "papers" when they present a SS number and drivers licence? You can't question if they are stolen or not, unless you enjoy law suits. The government does not give us the means to do a real background check. Blame the businesses all you want, but you should know the other side of the story. It starts with the lawmakers! Read 7.1 above.

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#28.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:25 AM EST

I sure hope everybody complaining isn't voting Democratic.  Who do you think opposes all these immigration reforms?

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#28.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:10 PM EST
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And everyone wonders why the economy is bad!  If you take every mexican in New Orleans sending money(Our Money) out of the country and then to think this is happening all over the United States!  Doesn't take a genius to figure out Mexicans are ruining our country and we will be left in ruins as there country is!  They work their 4 main jobs, lawn/landscaping, roofing, construction, restaraunt work.  But they are now fanning out to other jobs and eventually they will overrun, but hell our country is known for letting @!$%# go to long, Al Qaeda 9/11, The Economy, the list goes on!  STOP IMMIGRATION, CLOSE THE BORDERS, MORE BORDER PATROL, ANY PASSERS WILL BE SHOT ON SITE!

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Reply#29 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:54 AM EST

We have done a pretty darned good job of sending our money overseas ourselves, buying Middle Eastern oil and imports from China.......

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#29.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:58 AM EST
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How long will the Associated Press be permitted to serve as publicists that support illegal alien work thieves' presence in our country by consistently presenting them as victims? These people are criminals. It they could not turn every anchor baby into an entitlement check and steal work at the same time, they would not be here.

I have gotten to the point that I cannot bear to read another tiny-violin press release for illegals. Get them out of my country. Strip their anchors of citizenship and get them out, too.

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Reply#30 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:58 AM EST
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I want to add that I am very disappointed that MSNBC posts these stupid articles as if that means they are covering the issue. This story is propaganda, not useful information.

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Reply#31 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:59 AM EST
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Over 3 years ago this hurricane hit New Orleans.  The locals either fled before the storm or once rescued they fled after the storm.  Massive mess to clean up.  The hispanics came in and did the work, while the locals that ran away demanded support during this difficult period in their life.  And everyone is mad at the hispanics?

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Reply#32 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:04 AM EST

No we are mad at the government for not enforcing the laws they themselves passed on immigration. There are plenty of construction workers that would have been happy to help rebuild New Orleans, but the companies that use illegal alien labor underbid them because they could afford to do so using the illegal alien labor force. So we blame the construction companies that use them too, along with the government for not enforcing our laws.

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#32.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:09 AM EST

steven; bull @!$%# they work for companies that can under bid companies that don't just another way of destoying america

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#32.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:47 AM EST
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Congress needs to get off their rear and do something about this.  A wall needs to be built and guarded by the military.  These people who are here are criminals because they are not legal.  I you or I commit a crime, we are punished.  What is being done here?  Nothing.

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Reply#33 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:04 AM EST
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Lots of hate in the room.... the xenophobes are out in force.   Must be some fear is creeping in as the implications of our economic situation sinks in. You all did a pretty good job of hitting both immigrants and those horrible welfare recipients who are taking all our hard earned money, didn't you?  

I would love to be able to do a count of how many of the people posting about how these folks are taking all our jobs actually do the blue collar, physical labor type jobs in question.  I did my years of this type of work, and in those days, the only thing on my mind at the end of the day was a good meal and a warm bed.   Come to think of it, it is awfully easy for folks to criticize immigrants on forums like this, given the fact that most immigrants probably don't have the literacy level needed to defend themselves.

Or perhaps folks are looking ahead at how bad the economy might get, and are proactively hammering the competion, since  some of us might have to actually go back to hard physical labor for subsistence again?

Per the violence.... the area has always had a high crime rate, even before Katrina.   The immigrants didn't bring it.

Regardless, the writing is on the wall.   Whether we like it or not, caucasians will soon be a minority given current demographic trends.   We won't be able to scapegoat much longer. Far wiser to educate ourselves out of competition with this type of work and let others  do some of our physical labor for us and provide them opportunities to better themselves, than to whine about how tough life is for us because they are willing to move to places we won't go, to do work we won't do, at a wage we won't work because sending money to their loved ones is more important than a 42 inch flat screen TV.

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Reply#34 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:07 AM EST

If we could keep every penny we earned working, free medical/dental/etc, help in finding housing and all the other benefits illegals get for free, then yes we would be willing to work cheaper. Richard; with all your presumed education, you sound ignorant.

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#34.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:16 AM EST

Richard; there are over 20 million here deport them and it might take care of our unempoyment situation. you say let them come in and better educate ourselves the trade used to to be an honorable way of making a living, it takes alot of knowledge and hardwork are you saying american are afraid of this, who did this work befor the government turned a blind eye before regan gave them amnesty. you are an arrogant hypocrite who doesn't know the facts. Why don't you move to mexico and see how you are treated for that matter just stay there you are unamerican  

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#34.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:44 AM EST
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 Anonymous ,I'll tell you when the associated press will take notice and stop the propaganda. When the illeagals move into their line of work. Suddenly , the word  "undocumented" will be replaced with "illegal".  

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Reply#35 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:12 AM EST

Well said!!

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#35.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:44 AM EST
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Where's INS???

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Reply#36 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:13 AM EST
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All bow to Richard the All Knowing!  I guess an illegal has more of a right to take over the United States than I do as a citizen to try to save it.

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Reply#37 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:16 AM EST
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Get off your high horse Mr. Lambert . Your as bad as the associated press apologists. The illegals do this work for wages we can't ,and you know it ,IF you worked in the services you claim to have. They send the money back home and live in better conditions than where most of them came from off our social services. Taken a look at your withholding section of your pay check lately. You call us xenophobes while you have your head buried in the sand !

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Reply#38 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:18 AM EST
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Illegals do the jobs american won't or can't do.  They will suffer the long consequences of being exposed to all the chemicals of the rebuilding of new orleans.  To the poster who said their teenage kid can't get a job the reason is that fast food companies that illegals are hard working and are better value then some pimple face kid who has no job experience nor any ambition a lot different than illegal who has mouths to feed

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Reply#39 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:21 AM EST

Angie; they work at one pace they have brought down the wages in america, they don't learn english, they march for their rights waving mexican flags. they do not give a @!$%# about america anly what they can take from us get your head out of the sand that better value is destroying our economy so keep on thinking they are a benifit

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#39.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:19 AM EST
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That's just the way it is in America anymore...  Nobody does anything about it.  This country is full of cry baby whiners who shut up the minute they get a bottle shoved in their mouth.  America is just too complacent, so this is what you get!....  Enjoy! 

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Reply#40 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:21 AM EST
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I've only read a minimal part of this story , but we are talking about illeagals get them out send them home . there are plenty of americans who will do this work . another example of why illegals are not so bad . WAKE UP AMERICA deport these law breakers. how many of your countrymen & women are out of work  this is a total travesty of justice. let them apply for citizenship, by using these people we are destroying the blue collar workers. It's easy to pay cheap and take the labor, but look at what we've done to our country. It's time to  revolt against these law breakersthis includes  you people who hire them for the small cleanup jobs PISSED OFF AMERICAN AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Save a buck destroy our system

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Reply#41 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:28 AM EST
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The fact that the Govt, for whatever reason won't do anything about this gives more credibility to the whole conspicacy theory about forming a North American Union with Canada and Little America to the South.

I find it hard to believe in the possibility but the govt actions or LACK of them seems to point to it. These people are ILLEGAL not undocumented and certainly not immigrants!

Send them home!!

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Reply#42 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:38 AM EST
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send all the mexicans home they are stinky very nasty people and do not deserve a damn thing, but my foot kicking you in the a$$ back to mexico.

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Reply#43 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:40 AM EST
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Angie, if you could read, you would have realized that I said my BROTHER who is nineteen, and has grill cooked at some of the FINEST restaurants in the US Virgin Islands (oh, thats a US territory, in case your ignorant self didnt know) who should have no problem grabbing a job flipping burgers, but cant get one because latinos get into management, and then wont hire anyone but their own kind. If your gonna make a comment read the ENTIRE post. Their are plenty of Americans who want to work in factories, and the service industry, plenty of people who want our outsourced jobs brought back to the states, dont get it twisted. I truly feel sorry for illegals, but the fact of the matter is, is that Americans should get first dibbs on jobs - not vice versa.

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Reply#44 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:42 AM EST

My facts are noot twisted I've been in construction 30 years, if you don't speak spanish ther is no job. wages have dropped 25% this is how they are going to break america if you feel sorry for illegals you have not been affected by the influx of them so before you start saying im ignorant try getting your facts straight. you have know idea how far they have infiltrated our economy

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#44.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:12 AM EST

Angie your contradicting yourself.

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#44.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:22 AM EST
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The burden on our school system our social programs the money they send home they are using us and laughing at us they have no respect for america. but we just put up with it STAND UP AMERICA KICK THESE SOB OUT OF OUR COUNTRY take care or america. IT'S OUR POLITICIANS, CHURCH LEADERS, OUR EMPLOYERS AND THE APATHY OF AMERICANS IT'S ALMOST TO LATE DEPORTATION IS THE ANSWER . YOU FELL SORRY FOR THEM? WELL THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU. THIS IS WORSE THAN THE OUT SOURCING OF JOBS WAKE THE F UP AMERICA

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Reply#45 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:45 AM EST
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I live in Baton Rouge and love New Orleans.  It is not just New Orleans that hispanics are flocking to, it is all of southern LA.  My neighborhood had about 3 or 4 hispanic families pre-katrina, now it is about 70% hispanic.  Many I'm sure are illegal.  Why doesn't our government do something about these illegal immigrants.  Every small town between Mississippi and Texas have a growing population of hispanics. 

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Reply#46 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:46 AM EST

It is to break the american middle class,We cater to their language , they are the only population that doesn't learn english, our welfare system gives them am a 2/3's break on their income when filing but not citizens. The gov is breaking the middle class to help make us a third world nation financially

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#46.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:04 AM EST
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Just another place for IILEGALS to be dropped off at,,,,,,another slum for the area, and the NEXT hurricane!

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Reply#47 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:53 AM EST
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Many of us have documented what happens when an illegal gets in an accident....nothing, and we end up paying our own deductible.

Same scenario except the car that hits my wife and I contain illegal aliens from Iran with names like Hussein Amajedidine, does the cop let them go with a ticket????  I didn't think so, please expalin to me what the difference is because I'm too stupid or disgusted to get it!

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Reply#48 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:55 AM EST

dear lost

you are right !!!   there should be no difference!

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#48.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:07 AM EST
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What REALLY cracks me up is that people like Dick , excuse me , Richard Lambert and Angie B will protest the opening of a Walmart to no end saying they cost small buisness owners, but sit back and call every one else names if they post common sence about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS destroying America and our economy. Lets hope the next Hospital that closes due to ILLEGAL immigrant abuse is in 'ol Angies town , or Richard L is the next one who can't afford his health care due to the abuse by illegal , excuse me Richard , undocumented aliens. .......hypocrytes . 

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Reply#49 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:55 AM EST
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These people are not "imigrants" they are illegals and the people who hire them are breaking the law.  In Norcross GA, they are over run with illegals and the streets look like Tijwania not America.  You are afraid to go out at night, they ruin the home values by tearing up screens, doors, and not keeping up where they are living.  They live 3-5 families to a three bedroom home.  This is not good for America.  Immigrants are always welcome, they want to be Americans.  These people have babies to claim a tie to our system.  They get ADC and if you have enough kids and parents all living in the same house it makes it affordable to eat on the rest of us.  They don't put in businesses to trade with us, they change the landscape to look like the nations they were running from.  Why don't they fix their own nation instead of coming here illegally?  It is a shame that the news would call them "immigrants" they are illegals and should be shipped off, and their children should not be citizens.  If you come here illegally your child is not legal... period....

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Reply#50 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:58 AM EST
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ok I KNOW it's CHRISTmas Eve and all but I have to put in my 2 cents worth.  Anybody have a family member  (or perhaps just themselvef ) who got deathly ill a couple of years ago from eating strawberries that were picked by illegals in the Ca strawberry fields?  Or perhaps they got sick after running a knife thru a canteloupe picked by an illegal that had just urinated in the field?  We recently ( in AZ ) had a Taco Bell almost completely go out of business because the staff did not speak English and they were just plain filthy.  The KFC food that had been placed on the buffet "platters" looked and smelled like garbage.  Countless letters sent to the owner did nothing to change it so those countless letters were sent to the health dept.

I have NOTHING against immigration.  I have a whole lot against illegal immigration.  If you want to come here and assimilate into the American way of life learn to speak the language ( on your own dime tyvm ) get a job and stay off of welfare.  The only reason these people are willing to work for $2 an hour is because they can't get hired anywhere else.  They only want cash jobs so that they don't have to pay taxes like the rest of us.  Those that do pay taxes claim 10 kids as dependents and send all the $ back home, disappear and come back over with new names and new green cards.  The people that are hiring illegals  ought to prosecuted as well.  Those jobs could be well filled by inmates on a work release programs.  Those guys  are willing to leave their cells and learn the construction trade so that they will have a "profession" when they get out will probably work for far less than $2 an hour.  But then all the illegal trade really is is this; a government sanctioned program!   Just when did we adopt the attitude that this is the only country of conscience?  We need to start looking out for our own!!

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Reply#51 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:01 AM EST
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Remember all you hostiles out there; all of your forefathers could have been considered illegal immigrants when this land belonged to the Indians and Mexicans.  You're here because they allowed you to be here.

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Reply#52 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:06 AM EST

Allowed?  Ask the Indian tribes today if they "allowed" us to be here!

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#52.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:12 AM EST

Wow..... More hate mail in one post than in all posts together on Newsvine.   Obviously struck a nerve.....

TOR....   If my history is right, one thing further.... Aren't mexicans pretty much combinations of native americans and europeans, mostly spaniards?

But won't go as far as to say Mexicans and Indians "allowed us" to be here.   If I am not mistaken, the North American presence is the result of a lot of wars, lost by both the native americans and Mexico.

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#52.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:19 AM EST

Thor; sorry but bite me these are illegals, law breakers and thy are destroying our economy unless you are one of those who take advantage of their sevices

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#52.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:25 AM EST

The Mexicans took America from the Indians and we took most of it from the Mexicans.

Now you believe we should let the Mexicans take from us just because you are a bleeding hart that does not see that this is an envision from the south.

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#52.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:26 AM EST

Tor; They didn't 'Allow' us to be here, we kicked their a$$ and took it and it looks like we might have to do it again because our government can't or won't do their job.

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#52.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:30 AM EST

Your statement is getting old every brown butt kisser always comes up with that B.S.

There was no law on immigration at that time, so no one was illegal.

We have laws now as does Mexico and I dare you to inter Mexico illegally and see how they treat illegal emigrants.

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#52.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:33 AM EST

If youre not an indian , then you too are a foreigner

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#52.7 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:04 AM EST

you indians should have wipe us out but you didn't, so now this is the United States of America your time is gone. sorry I have great respect for the indian but you lost it . and to the people talking about the mexicans they are mostly of spanish decent they are not indigenous people

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#52.8 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:34 AM EST

Or maybe just another one of those tree-hugging Kumbiah singers, Heteroman! 

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#52.9 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:37 AM EST

So I guess the inscription on the Statue of Liberty is nothing but lip service.  Or is it that she's facing Europe, to the east and not Mexico, to the south.

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#52.10 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:39 AM EST

She's facing into the wind to keep the flies off her!

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#52.11 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:43 AM EST

As long as they pay tax, I will be fine, but no they don't but claim our tax, end welfare!

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#52.12 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:17 PM EST
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No one can deny how hard working "undocumented workers" are. However that does not mean  that they should be given a pass because of how hard they work. There are a lot of "legal citizens" who do jobs that others do not want to do. That stigma was created by?  Why do we even bother with laws if they aren't enforced. It's pointless our government, people we "elect", are spineless cowards. 

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Reply#53 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:08 AM EST

your right it includes gov, employers ,and churches, lets not forget the bleeding hearts that feel sorry for them.  And a big thanks to them for being stand up ameicans. and they don't work any harder or do jobs americans woulded do they just do them cheaper and their quaility sucks

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#53.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:29 AM EST

As long as they pay tax I will be fine, but wait they don't and they used our tax money.

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#53.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:16 PM EST
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Welcome to the Latino States of America!  I understand they are replacing the torch in the Statue of Liberty's hand with a beef burrito!

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Reply#54 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:09 AM EST

Haha! I heard it was a machete!

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#54.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:04 AM EST

Or a phoney Social Security card!  lol!

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#54.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:07 AM EST
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Amen Frances.

Thats another problem entirely. People with petty misdemeanors, petty drug charges, who cant get a job, and dont tell me they cantbecause my second job is at a half way house and these people have the hardest time finding jobs, I see them every day go out, pound the pavement and come back discouraged. Thats rehabilitation in America. Do your time, and do more when you are released. Have no source of income - and then be expected to stay out of trouble....We have got to fix our people before we add on to our own burden of having to provide for illegals as well.

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Reply#55 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:13 AM EST
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If they are "legal",welcome them.  If they are "illegal", deport them. Let's follow the laws. 

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Reply#56 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:18 AM EST

Too bad the INS doesn't participate on Newsvine!!

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#56.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:23 AM EST

Just as an FYI, there is no longer an "INS."  The former Immigration & Naturalization Service was rechristened the "United States Citizenship & Immigration Service," better known by its acronym, USCIS, when it was moved under the disasterously disorganized umbrella of the Department of Homeland Security several years ago.

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#56.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:53 AM EST
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Oh boo hoo!!!! This is complete bollocks!! Poor pitiful foreigners getting attacked by criminals, that's what happens to anybody at the wrong place and wrong time!! here's a thought though, that dude that got robbed and shot, well he wouldn't have had any of that happen to him if he was where he was supposed to be "back where he came from". so many people try so hard to become american citizens, the legal way, and yet we slap them in the face by doing nothing to the illegal ones, pathetic! so instead of new orleans being a french based city with a beautiful heritage, it's going to look a lot like the flea markets with mariachi music in the back ground, the ms gang running around and the smell of red strange corn with hot sauce filtering the air. The big easy, ha, soon to be El Facil Grande!!!

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Reply#57 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:31 AM EST
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What the heck!  Why do I have to shell out my hard earned money to support these people.  The sad thing is that there are a ton of jobs out there, but the legal Americans think of it as being "beneath" them to pick up a shovel, hammer a nail, clean a floor...while these people suck up the jobs out there and send money back to Mexico for their families to spend it in their economy not the US economy.  The problem is no one wants to do a darn thing about it.  When are we going to do put a stop to this and quit complaining about it!  Any ideas?  I lived in CA for 5 years and 80% of the places you go or jobs you apply for you have to be bilingual to apply - how frustrating!

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Reply#58 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:32 AM EST
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Pablo is but a pawn in chess game of life!

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Reply#59 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:52 AM EST

bs

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#59.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:37 AM EST

It was meant to be funny, 1landscaper!  Ever see Blazing Saddles?  It was a line Mongo made famous!  Merry Christmas!!

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#59.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:40 AM EST

Semper:  he's just too upset by me.  Merry Christmas to you...  :) 

PS.  I did see Blazing Saddles--great movie--Mel Brooks' genius showed throughout.

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#59.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:52 AM EST

sorry boys this just isn't a houmorous subject to me. but I will say have a Merry Christmas And A Happy New Year

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#59.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:05 AM EST

Ditto 1landscaper! Merry Christmas to you. Be blessed.

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#59.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:11 AM EST
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 Phuck'em, Phuck'em, Phuck'em

  "The man, who asked that his name be withheld because he is in the country illegally, was walking from a nearby discount store at the end of a work week. It was an opening for armed robbers who target immigrants because they are known to be paid in cash and are reluctant to report crimes."

 

 Ninety % of these people are illegally in our country and my home state and city.

 I truey welcome any true immigrant that has come to the US legally, I don't give a rats a_s if these people get robbed and murdered, phuck'em, they can't get killed if they are'nt here.

 This is the kind of dirtball liberal bullsh_t that going to eventually be the end of America, there will be nothingleft of the Untied States of America.

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Reply#60 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:55 AM EST
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I bet I could round up at least one hundred illegals a day. Why can't law enforcement do it.

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Reply#61 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:56 AM EST
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comment-785342; Why do Americans like you keep giving ALL American workers a bad rap when you say they won't do hard labor jobs?? I have done them and I have met tons of legal Americans that will do these jobs and they do them at fairly low wages!!(See my comments at 10.5...I don't know what planet you live on but the planet I live on has millions of hard working LEGAL Americans willing to do HARD Labor.  So please give me a break and millions of other LEGAL Americans!! I have worked jobs paying around 6/hr. and in some cases within the last tens years for even less....so just stop your BULL-S--t!!

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Reply#62 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:58 AM EST
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I live in new orleans and have a few friends that are contractors. They prefer to hire latinos vs blacks because they work harder , dont @!$%# and bring their own food for lunch.

I know not politically correct view, but it's the truth ....bring on the hate comments

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Reply#63 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:58 AM EST

Not a problem as long as they are legal latinos. If not the contractor should be arrested for treason.

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#63.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:02 AM EST

LMAO, Heteroman!  And it's true!!

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#63.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:05 AM EST

 I personally know contrctors that have highly skilled latino's that work for them, they are being paid cash, the latino's are'nt paying tax's on this money, and they are sending moeny back to they'er homelands, monies that are'nt recirculating in the local economy.

 As for latino's being choosen over local black's, well that's a whole other can of worms, the skill set many blacks at the labor level bring to a job is nothing but "Gansta" bullsh_it, they have a very bad work ethic.

 The latino's have brought a large amount of skills with them, yet there are many latino construction nightmare's for homeowner's that have hired them, soooooooo just because they are latino does'nt equate to a good job.

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#63.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:11 AM EST

Brian, it cost Arizona alone some $1.4 Billion in 2005!!

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#63.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:31 AM EST

my contractor buddies say they are reniging

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#63.5 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:50 PM EST

Heteroman I live in new orleans and have a few friends that are contractors. They prefer to hire latinos vs blacks because they work harder , dont @!$%# and bring their own food for lunch.

Brian-328194 As for latino's being choosen over local black's, well that's a whole other can of worms, the skill set many blacks at the labor level bring to a job is nothing but "Gansta" bullsh_it, they have a very bad work ethic.

LOL wow, I wonder why slavery lasted so long then. Maybe because it was free labor?

With such lame of service, this country still managed to be the most powerful in the world. I wonder what would've happened if they had slaved Mexicans instead.

America however is yet to be the perfect place. Illegals only think it's perfect because they don't have to pay for anything and deal with daily BS everyone else has to.

If illegals wanted to live the normal citizen life, they wouldn't leave their country!

Don't fool yourselves. As soon as the Government decides to legalize everyone and they have to pay taxes, it'll all be over for them! I'll bet they'll all take off!

The Government knows it and that's why they don't so anything about it!

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#63.6 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:51 PM EST
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And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our illegals were still there.

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Reply#64 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:03 AM EST
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Just makes me wonder how many of them are really "legal"  When the "bubble" really bursts, we are going to need these jobs.  The 2nd Great Depression is coming. Get Ready For It.

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Reply#65 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:09 AM EST
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politicians..........are you reading these comments? if you don't do something about this, we will not only vote you out of office......we will kick your ass!

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Reply#66 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:10 AM EST
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"That's just not good enough," said Valencia.

Then go home and you`ll have all the good enough you want!

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Reply#68 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:15 AM EST
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I really try not to be racist or prejudice about others, but I cannot seem to get over my annoyance with illegal aliens.  Bottom line, it's against the law, and laws are made for a good reason.  Also, I think that Arabic illegals are tracked down more than Hispanics, when they should be tracked down equally.  Again, don't get me wrong.  I love people from all over the world, but I just don't think it's fair that the U.S. is WAY to lenient about letting people into this country.  Personally, I would LOVE to relocate to Italy and try to make a life there, but you just can't do that.  And I have no desire to try to live in hiding once my visa expires, etc. etc.  It's just not that easy for my being a white girl originally from Kentucky to move myself to Tuscany, which IS the ideal place to live. 

So, getting back to this issue, GREAT we are educating our illegal immigrants, but there are still ILLEGAL!  I don't have much more to say and have little to no sympathy for it.

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Reply#69 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:27 AM EST

well said. Most of us are tolerant and not racist but to see a huge minority explode and take over some neighborhoods is irritating. Of course, they are the answer to our domestic needs and it is why we look the other way. They do the work no one else does; they work hard and charge less. It is all about supply and demand.

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#69.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:41 AM EST
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FACT: The Feds are currently training 20,000 special troops to control anticipated riots in American cities in 2009.

Two tips for the Feds:

1. 20,000 is not enough.

2. It will start with Americans ripping down the Capital and dragging the pieces home to use as firewood.

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Reply#70 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:29 AM EST

Ypu idiots talk about about revolution and it reminds me of an oath I took it went something like"  I will defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies , foreign and DOMESTIC" where do I sign up so I can smoke all you wanne-be revolutionaries?

Very imortant vocabulary word for all you revolutionaries: Counter-Insurgency Warfare

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#70.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:35 AM EST

 Thats the FED's answer to the unemployment, lol.

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#70.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:10 AM EST

Hetero,

You missed the point. I took that same oath and I believe it and will uphold it.

The revolution is not against our great nation..........it is against the corrupt politicians who are allowing illegal activity to corrupt and destroy our country.

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#70.3 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:49 AM EST

Thank You Bill. I'm with you I'm not against the nation, country or even the Mexicans. I'd just like to line up the corrupt CEO's, politicians and then round up the illegals and ship them off!

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#70.4 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:27 PM EST
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Are we supposed to be happy about illegals 'helping out' New Orleans? I'm not getting it .

Illegals are a plaugue to our culture and country . It is high time we stopped trying to be so politically correct and rid our cities and country of this blight. I am so tired of 'bleeding heart' types and thier propaganda about how we benifit from having them here ,total BS!

They ARE taking jobs from Americans and add little to our country.Try doing what they do here in corrupt little Mexico and they will take you into jail and take your car and belongings .

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Reply#71 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:30 AM EST

Sorry no one will do a thing, with lobbying and congressmen!

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#71.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:11 PM EST
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The only good part about this story is these vermin "illegal aliens" are getting a little of their own medicine, getting robbed.  They have been robbing this country for YEARS and its only getting worse!  If your here ILLEGALLY , YOU ARE A CRIMINAL and the excuse of wanting a better life blah blah is CRAP!!!  I want a better life too but you don't see me sneak into someone elses home and STEAL from them with the excuse that "I'm trying to make a better life" my ass would be in jail but these evil leeches get free housing, food stamps, free medical and I WORK for that stuff and I couldn't get any of that if I needed it because its all WASTED yep WASTED on these worthless criminal scum.  If they don't speak english send their sorry butts back over the border until they learn it, why should we learn spanish for CRIMINALS who are INVADING our country? 

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Reply#72 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:30 AM EST
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All the lazy dirtbags living in N.O. that refused to get off their asses and work those construction jobs should lose their welfare based free ride. We wuoldn't be having the illegal immigrant problem we are having if it wasn't for these lazy bastards.

N.O. was a festering @!$%#hole before the hurricanes and it will stay that way because of those lazy, worthless dirtbags that expect EVERYBODY else to pay their way through life.

If you want the illegal immigrant problem fixed, END WELFARE.

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Reply#73 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:38 AM EST

These lazy dirtbags are rebuilding the city that is here for a reason, the mississippi river and all that flows on it.

to get rid of people as stupid as you they should ENCOURAGE ABORTION

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#73.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:54 PM EST
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The illegals get the jobs not because the employer wants spanish speaking employess, or not because Americans will not do the jobs, it's because they would have to pay Americans by check and then pay taxes, medicare, workmans comp and have more paperwork to do. Are they evil because of this, no. Why pay higher wages and do more work which means charging more for the product? Us Americans will not pay the higher prices, we want American products built my Americans but we won't pay. All of us want a "living wage", but with that comes the higher prices. Which don't you want more?

As far as the Illegal Immigrants, they have won a big battle in the election of PE Obama. Those calling for the end of the PC and government taking action I have to ask, who really has their head in the sand? The hispanic community is such a force in this country now along with other ethnicities there is no turning back. In the end, this country will be one of the biggest most successful conquests ever recorded by man. The interesting part will be the epilogue that will say the people of this Country claimed to be the proudest, strongest, most compassionate people and their compassion was their downfall.

While I don't look at this very often as I believe it is one of the main propoganda sites for the liberal PC anti-american movement and that was proven during the last election and admitted by the powers at NBC. The majority of the people in this country spoke and the void in leadership has just grown almost to the size of the vaccum in Keith Olbermans head. I can't remember where the quote comes from but it's something like we've seen the enemy and it is us.

All the world has to do is sit back and watch us defeat ourselves and come in to take the spoils. All the work and fighting our forefathers did is being undone by people unwilling to stand up for what is theirs just to avoid hurting anothers feelings and changing what is wrong. Everyone loves to talk big on the Internet because it is safe and it lets them blow off some steam but at the end of the day, we lock ourselves in our safe little houses and reassure ourselves someone else will do something about all the problems.

Here is breaking news..........It's not going to happen! Each of us need to take back our country.

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Reply#74 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:43 AM EST
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What people seems to forget is that employers can not discriminate against people basic on race, EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commision).  Therefore legal americans can not only sue these company for requiring that legal americans speak spanish, but at the same time sue for hiring illegals!!!  This can be done as a class action law suit nationwide.

Someone (lawyer pro bono) just needs to do it!  This will bring all of these problems to the forefront, and maybe teach these greedy employers a lesson, and our goverment.  This is our given right.

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Reply#75 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:58 AM EST
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Is this a preview of the president elect's  "Rebuilding our Infrastructure" ?.........let's hope not !

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Reply#76 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:58 AM EST
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The Hispanics & Latinos came to New Orleans to take construction jobs at subpar wages,  They took these jobs from locals who could have really used the mone.  Almost all were illegal bt that didn't matter.  These people have stay on more have come.  They should be deported.  Illegal immigration has so swelled this population that it has become politically protected by the Bush Administration & Democrats in Congress. 

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Reply#77 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:07 AM EST

you think any Congress will do a thing?  no they will not, and they need their votes!!!  It's the begining of the end.

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#77.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:35 PM EST
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Are you kidding me? Am I supposed to feel good about these illegals getting free government programs? Whose gov't? Mine or theirs? Get the buses and round them up. Get the pregnant ones first before they spit out another anchor baby or ten. It disgusts me that these people come here illegaly and breed like third world trash and I get to pick up the tab. I have three children and I have to pay for their medical needs.

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Reply#78 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:09 AM EST

Congressmen need their vote!

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I live in Yakima, Wa. As I like to call it N. Mexico. Half of our 120,000 people are illegal. This blooms to 180,000 during picking season. My kids are the only english speakers in their class. Every one has 3 SS#s and names. 1 to get a job, 1 to get welfare and free healthcare, and 1 to get unemployment. Are newest state cost cutting measure is to deport non violent criminals. Where they can just turn around and come back up. Half of our sex crimes are from mexicans already deported at least once. Half of our prisoners are illegal. The feds are supposed to pay for them but we are lucky enough to get 10 cents on the dollar. We are 7th place on property crime and auto theft. We are a defacto sanctuary city because both PD and Sheriff refuse to check status because with half of the calls being illegals they have no place to put them. With all these illegals we only have 2 ICE agents. They're busy deporting people who are out of prison after serious crime. Only half those driving have insurance or drivers licenses. Even after a accident they'll let them drive off. I have already had an uninsured driver hit my car and it cost me a $500 deductible. Both of our cars have been broken into twice.

And they don't come empty handed. they bring meth and Heroin. We are a major gate way for drugs for the west. This summer alone they have found 3 vineyards were used to cover the marijuana growing underneath for 500,000 plants.

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Reply#79 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:21 AM EST
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Latinos are exploding. Someone needs to teach these people birth control. Considering their border line heritage in marginal intellects, I foresee a huge population in New-Orleans that takes away the soul music to replace it with irritating mexican music as they will wipe out the great food replacing it with chicken filled tacos. Not a good trade off. From one minority to another, who really wants to live in New-Orleans?

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Reply#80 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:31 AM EST
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If anyone does not believe that Mexico is re-conquering the United States, they had better pull their heads out of their a**** and pay attention to what is happening to our country. One doctor alone delivering 30 to 40 babies a month! Can anyone say anchor babies!!!! Who is paying for their health care and deliveries? Our government tax dollars that's who. This is outrageous. The drug cartels own the Mexican society and their government hook, line & sinker. They behead people in the streets in towns along our borders. I know for a fact that unscrupulous employers are under-cutting the wages of Americans in order to pay these illegal criminals slave wages. They are lowering our standard of living everywhere, lowering standards for hospitals, schools, communities, you name it. They do not believe in birth control and their women began having children in their early teens. The United States is being destroyed and will be unrecognizable in twenty years.

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Reply#81 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:40 AM EST

If anyone does not believe that Mexico is re-conquering the United States, they had better pull their heads out of their a**** and pay attention to what is happening to our country.

I agree!

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#81.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:05 PM EST
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These people have broken the law, federal law, not just a minor traffic traffic here.  Please stop calling these people immigrants, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS, simply put. 

The sad part here is very simply.  Who is doing the work to rebuilt this City.  A City that many American enjoy all year long.

The big question is who is doing the CRIME WAVE?

I have always found it very funny on how Good Red Blooded American are ready to claim how immigrants have broken the law,  and say nothing about the Good Red Blooded Armerican who are giving these people a JOB!

Government money that is being stolen by other Good Red Blooded American in 4 to 5 sub contract to do one job.

A job that all of the welfare people in New Orleans are not wanting to do.

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Reply#82 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:41 AM EST

Who the hell is still willing to live in a city under sealevel while next to the ocrean?  oh yeah, illegal Alien who drain our tax to hell, and wait for another hurricane to hit so they can act poor infront of the TV, and congress will give them more money to repeat the same thing cut the welfare!!!

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#82.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:09 PM EST
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The only thing I care now is lobbying district for an illegal alien high school? that's our tax money go to, help those fxxking illegal alien?  While waiting for another hurricane to hit so they can claim more benefit???? US demcracy with lobbying suck, all congressman/woman care is their vote, more illegal alien benefit = more fxxking latino vote for them and not a fxxking congressman will do anything.

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Reply#83 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:06 PM EST
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I just heard that US jobless claims are at a 26-year high. NOW tell me Americans won't do those jobs.

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Reply#84 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:28 PM EST

I would say go out and apply, apply, apply.  No one is stopping anyone from finding a job--that's for sure.

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#84.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:32 PM EST

You are 100% correct,  now those ugly illegals won't have a reason to say in our Country

American egar to work will just run out and apply for those Jobs!     lol

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#84.2 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:56 PM EST
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I love Louisiana, I love New Orleans and I love the South. I live in Los Angeles now, where I have more than enough of my fair share of "Immigrants." Please! These people come into the country, ILLEGALLY!!!!, take the identities of good honest hard working established tax paying citizens and starting breeding as if it's their only purpose in life. The kids they have then don't speak any English, start gangs and continue to harass honest hardworking people. These people need condoms and a 1-way ticket home. Any US born children should be sent to military school and then straight to serve the country they want to be a part of. 

George Carlin said it best, R.I.P. -


 

President Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use. The best way to Stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant Crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq.

Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military.

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.

This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo. Problem solved.

If you think this is a good solution to both the problems, forward it to your friends. I just did.

George Carlin

I am not happy to be white and considered a "minority" now.

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Reply#85 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:23 PM EST
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I think illegals filling the city walking around with cash that thieves know about,

is causing the crime rate to explode. That is not helping the situation.

I don't think Americans should be paying for 1,000 babies a month.

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Reply#86 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:38 PM EST

You people just do not see the forest for the trees. 

These people are being paid good tax payers money,  buy some SOB that does not want to pay US Citizen a good wage,  because he is making all of the profit's himself,  by employing someone that he should not.

Force the business to hire all those American ready to do this JOB.

If you go after these guys,  then there would be not jobs,  not illegals.

All you would need to do is empower the state and local police so they can go out and arrest these people.

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#86.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:01 PM EST
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I guess their racist bigot mayor will not get his chocolate city now!!!  typical america like the politicians of D.C. they ran out of town during the anthrax scare and left the mail people behind.  The mayor ran out of town and left his people behind and they still reelected him!! America deserves people like him because they are too stupid to understand he screwed them just like most politicians!!! How long before the mayor starts complaining again about all the mexicans in his city??? What a pig he is!!

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Reply#87 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:56 PM EST

Chocolate is black right? so what about latino?

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#87.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:04 PM EST
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Please! These people come into the country, ILLEGALLY!!!!, take the identities of good honest hard working established tax paying citizens and starting breeding as if it's their only purpose in life. The kids they have then don't speak any English, start gangs and continue to harass honest hardworking people. These people need condoms and a 1-way ticket home. Any US born children should be sent to military school and then straight to serve the country they want to be a part of. 

George Carlin said it best, R.I.P. -

 

President Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use. The best way to Stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant Crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq.

Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military.

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.

This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo. Problem solved.

If you think this is a good solution to both the problems, forward it to your friends. I just did.

George Carlin

I am not happy to be white and considered a "minority" now.

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Reply#88 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:00 PM EST

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.

 

Your are oh so correct.  Since this is a JOB a lot of good Red Blood American do not want to do.

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#88.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:04 PM EST
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 If the state wants to let this continue than the fed. gov.should STOP sending any money to that state.NO welfare money,no highway money,NO MONEY AT ALL.ALL STATES SHOULD BE LIKE THAT THEY SHOULD ALL ENACT AND ENFORCE LAWS LIKE OKLAHOMA AND A FEW OTHER STATES.THEY WILL PROSECUTE ANYONE HELPING ILLEGALS.

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Reply#89 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:04 PM EST

I lived in Arkansas for a while where a major chicken supplier (TYSON) is based and they would advertise in Mexico for the illegals to come work there. The crime rate went up the rape rate went up but Tysons made money. This was during the Clinton era (you know our current president). The onlt time they would raid the plants is when the mexicans would get out of hand and start making demands. They would bust them, ship them home and clear the way for the next batch. The answer is the government knows about this and the right people are being paid to ignore it. Do you not understand American politics?

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#89.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:44 PM EST
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Why does this surprise anybody. This country is a dumping zone for every misfit in the world. There is no American any more. This country is falling a part faster than we can keep track of. Every where you look there is another piece of American soil being turned into little Mexico or middle Arabia. Our constitution gives them the right to come into our country ignore our laws and change it into what ever they want. This country is being sold piece by piece every day. The only question is how much longer they will let us stay?

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Reply#90 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:40 PM EST
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Why is it our Government will not really do anything aout the Illegal problem? I think it is because they are scared they will lose votes and not get re-elected. Another thing, why do these Illegals have groups that are screaming we are violating their rights. To me if you are not a LEGAL citizen here you have NO rights. I for one am tired for paying for them. I am tired of sitting back and watching them just walk around on our streets with no worries. We have got to come together and DEMAND that our government do something. I think the first thing Obama should do is tackle the Illegal problem. That "Change" in government would save us billions of dollars a year. I would happily volunteer and help round up Illegals. We better do something fast. It makes me sick that my children have to share there school with Illegals. We need to all stand together and do something. Our Government needs to do something. We need to demand that our Government does something this coming year 2009. There is no reason for our Government to post pone it. They are breaking the laws, lets round them up and send them packing kids and all.

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Reply#91 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:43 PM EST
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Ya know only one person has mentioned the140,000 HB program workers that are allowed here each month add that to the 10-15 million illegals, does our government want our country to financially fall or is it the bankers at the federal reserve telling them to lower our standard of living in a way that it will to late for us to do anything about it.

Economically we'll be equal to third world countries which is easier (and they are able to keep more of our money ) than to bring the standard of living up in other countries. well all be so far behind that instead of being able to effect a change we'll be to busy tring to feed our families 

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Reply#92 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:12 PM EST
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Random Sample:  My deepest thanks for the deletion of the thread wherein I was attacked for defending a dear friend who happens to be in the country illegally, fighting to stay, become a legal immigrant and bring his family. 

You are the very symbol of Christmas in my book.  With my thanks, and best wishes for a lovely holiday.  Be blessed and happy!

-L

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Reply#93 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:01 PM EST
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it does not matter anymore if they are "illegals", this country is "lost". the mexicans that are here legally for, say 30 years, and speak english well, went to school, and maybe "assimulated", have one goal in mind. "take back america without firing a shot". i come across a lot of them, and although their thinking is somewhat different, they know that someday, they will run this country. they have large families, and you do that for 20 years, you have a problem. many of them do not care about the "english language". they can get along without it. have you ever tried to gas up your car in a mexican neighborhood? you  have to wait in line, as a result of large families coming of driving age, not  mention the degrading od ther neighborhood. as i said in my previous comment, america will be like a third world country in 30 years.

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Reply#94 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:20 PM EST
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Lol.

Well thats what happens when you dont take care of your own. Somebody else will come along and take your place.

(AHEM,murica,AHEM)

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Reply#95 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:23 PM EST
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misterspapa:

revise your figures to about 14mm. i totally agree with you!!!!!

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Reply#96 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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I read in an MSNBC RSS Feed news story that when the illegal aliens make up a social security number, their employer pays the employment taxes against the ficticious number. Our government ends up with billions of dollars that cannot be matched to a valid number, so they just keep the money.  Why would they want to enforce federal laws on illegal immigrants when they are making that kind of money off of them.

So, yes, we need to fix the politicians first. The corruption is rampant. The aliens are paying the government then we are paying taxes for the aliens to go to school, have baby after baby, be treated at our hospitals, etc. We need to utilize our internet to make our voices heard. We all need to have our government representative's email addresses on our contact list. We need to demand that our immigration laws be enforced.  We ARE being invaded. We WILL be conquerred by baby popping illegal immigrants.  Ask any of them. Their goal is to cross the border and drop children to make them legal citizens.  One particular mexican who was interviewed said of his deportation that all of his family was here, the only reason he keeps getting deported is because his mother couldn't get across the border before he was born. Who ever thought up the rule of automatic citizenship for birth here was completely nuts.

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Reply#97 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:56 PM EST

What you read is only partly what is going on. The illegals are saavy enough to claim tons of deductions (e.g., anchor babies and fictional kids) and therefore pay very little tax.

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#97.1 - Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:53 PM EST
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