I don't expect it before 2017 to be honest.

I think NX will break with Nintendo's record of BC over the past few generations of their hardware/software. I think Iwata heavily implied that with some of his comments. It seems they will finally have a unified account system so you don't have to go through a bunch of bullshit if you lose your system or it breaks down you can just download your games again on any device you are signed into. But the price for this ability is no BC. So get ready to buy all your VC games again for the very first time.

Quite frankly I would be surprised if this system is more powerful than a Iphone, how true that is.

Adventurer:

No not really. Saying MM is up to par with the rest of the LoZ games is essentially like saying mcdonalds has the best burgers in town.

Just like saying Skyward sword has just as much exploration as any other Zelda game
Didn't you say you just started playing the older Zelda games years after wii came out?

another claim I remember you making was that the sky in Skyward sword has just as much content as the sea in wind waker... Sorry but you cant be the board's Zelda expert if you say things like that. unless that was someone else I was debating with about SS being a step back in terms on exploration.

The boards Zelda expert lol

Adventurer:
Saying MM is up to par with the rest of the LoZ games is essentially like saying mcdonalds has the best burgers in town.

Majora's Mask has better puzzles than Ocarina of Time, better NPCs with actual lives, better side quests and a better story. I don't really care that it uses a lot of old assets. The game manages to feel a lot different in spite of that.

Yeah it was quite unique

Adventurer:

devilsmaycry2:

Excuse me but that is complete and utter bullshit.

No not really. Saying MM is up to par with the rest of the LoZ games is essentially like saying mcdonalds has the best burgers in town. The fact that you even settle for so little shows where your standards are.

You make the most interesting comments.

I like Majoras Mask much more than Ocarina of Time. Some (silly) people really like to think that their opinion is some sort of universal truth.

And to the thread topic ... uuuh .. cool story, I'll wait and see.

Adventurer:
The fact that you consider MM up to the same standards as the other 3D Zelda games is demeaning to the rest of the other games, it means you don't care about quality or scale as long as it says LoZ on the cover.

I wish there was a way to express how horrible this view is that won't result in a ban.

Lu Yang, a principal test engineer at Nintendo, has listed "next generation (unannounced) consoles" on his LinkedIn profile.
Here's the full blurb:

Nintendo
February 2014 - Present (1 year 3 months)Redmond
Platform Tools for current (Wii U) and next generation (unannounced) consoles.

Obviously we know that NX is on the way, so perhaps what's listed on Yang's profile isn't too surprising. We'll be hearing more about that system next year!

Nintendo engineer lists next-gen, unannounced consoles on LinkedIn profile

Find it kinda funny that Redmond is mentioned, does this mean that NOA or possibly NOE are getting some say in the new console?

DMCMaster:
Find it kinda funny that Redmond is mentioned, does this mean that NOA or possibly NOE are getting some say in the new console?

Glabados:

Adventurer:

devilsmaycry2:

Excuse me but that is complete and utter bullshit.

No not really. Saying MM is up to par with the rest of the LoZ games is essentially like saying mcdonalds has the best burgers in town. The fact that you even settle for so little shows where your standards are.

You make the most interesting comments.

I appreciate the flatter, but in all modesty i don't think saying that a pseudo-expansion has less content and quality as a main game is really all that revolutionary.

Well, maybe it is for Nintendo folk, but i like to credit that to their primitive mentalities, and not to my brutal honesty.

For me the source of Majora's Mask's existence is less important than how the game is fundamentally designed.

Majora's Mask was created initially as an expansion to Ocarina of time, and yet still; in my opinion it's one of the smartest designed 3D Zelda games with the best framing and contextualization the franchise has to offer (The fact that Link can freely go back in time fixes an issue many games' context suffers from; player preferences vs. story's proposed importance).

Skyward Sword was, of course created independently of any other Zelda game but is married with many design principles I dislike.

It's all a matter of personal taste, of course. I don't think it's fair to greatly denounce one game over the other (or ridicule fans of either for any reason). Matthewmatosis (https://www.youtube.com/user/Matthewmatosis) raises some interesting commentary about both games if anyone is interested.

Skyward Sword has a number of things I like but in almost every regard, I prefer Majora's Mask. I think it's a very clever game.

DMCMaster:
Find it kinda funny that Redmond is mentioned, does this mean that NOA or possibly NOE are getting some say in the new console?

Many tech companies are based in the US especially those responsible for console components.

Memo:

DMCMaster:
Find it kinda funny that Redmond is mentioned, does this mean that NOA or possibly NOE are getting some say in the new console?

Many tech companies are based in the US especially those responsible for console components.

True, still makes me wonder if NOA or NOE will get some sort of say in the NX

Doubt it tbh maybe Reggie and Shibata but I don't think much else from them, Nintendo seem to have a multi-pronged approach planned where they won't need to be market leader to profit with this software platform so all hardware is going to have to be built around that so NCL will have to have the full input, if anything it's easier and quicker to test hardware in the US. It also keeps NOA and NOE informed as well as makes it easier to launch in the west as all new gen hardware launches in the west first now days.

Nintendo is still very Japanese. They will always put the Japanese gaming audience ahead of everyone else.

Nyxus:

Lu Yang, a principal test engineer at Nintendo, has listed "next generation (unannounced) consoles" on his LinkedIn profile.
Here's the full blurb:

Nintendo
February 2014 - Present (1 year 3 months)Redmond
Platform Tools for current (Wii U) and next generation (unannounced) consoles.

Obviously we know that NX is on the way, so perhaps what's listed on Yang's profile isn't too surprising. We'll be hearing more about that system next year!

Nintendo engineer lists next-gen, unannounced consoles on LinkedIn profile

seems to hint that nx is wii u successor and not the 3ds's

exclusive786:

Nyxus:

Lu Yang, a principal test engineer at Nintendo, has listed "next generation (unannounced) consoles" on his LinkedIn profile.
Here's the full blurb:

Nintendo
February 2014 - Present (1 year 3 months)Redmond
Platform Tools for current (Wii U) and next generation (unannounced) consoles.

Obviously we know that NX is on the way, so perhaps what's listed on Yang's profile isn't too surprising. We'll be hearing more about that system next year!

Nintendo engineer lists next-gen, unannounced consoles on LinkedIn profile

seems to hint that nx is wii u successor and not the 3ds's

That was always my assumption actually.

Regardless of the reason, there just never was a real sense of excitement about the Wii U. And while neither Miyamoto nor Shinya Takahashi (who oversees Nintendo's Software Planning & Development Division with Miyamoto, and heads development on all Nintendo games that aren't run directly by Miyamoto) were willing to get into specifics on the NX, the company's next console, they did imply that they think the excitement will be back when details are announced.

"For us, the next step is to think about what is going to be that element that is really going to catch the attention of a large number of players again and get them excited," says Takahasi. "We're constantly thinking about this idea from the perspective of the players and the needs of the players in terms of what can we can do with our ability and our technology to capture that excitement and passion."

Miyamoto's involvement in the creation of the Wii is well known in the video game industry. But as the NX is being made, he says he's taking a step back.

"I've pulled myself back out of some of the hardware section and I'm really focused on some of the software that I'm involved in-for example, the new Starfox game," he says. "Of course I am observing and looking at the hardware, but I am not actively participating and making decisions."

https://fortune.com/2015/06/23/shigeru-miyamoto-wii-u/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1074926

Its not a console, and it never was, nintendo never called the NX a console in any piece of press.

That quote doesn't say it isn't a console, does it? What else is it?

Matthew79:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1074926

Its not a console, and it never was, nintendo never called the NX a console in any piece of press.

That's right. They've called it a platform.

Nyxus:
That quote doesn't say it isn't a console, does it? What else is it?

Hard to say, an expansion on the wii U(that would be stupid) a phone, I dont know, what we do know is with the way since day one nintendo has said it wont take market from the 3ds and wiiU and have gone way out of their way to not call it a console, its not a console.

Considering the wiiU is more powerful then the ps3 and 360, to think their next console would be weaker then the ps4 is an insane concept to wrap my head around.

Matthew79:

Nyxus:
That quote doesn't say it isn't a console, does it? What else is it?

Hard to say, an expansion on the wii U(that would be stupid) a phone, I dont know, what we do know is with the way since day one nintendo has said it wont take market from the 3ds and wiiU and have gone way out of their way to not call it a console, its not a console.

Considering the wiiU is more powerful then the ps3 and 360, to think their next console would be weaker then the ps4 is an insane concept to wrap my head around.

Back then they also said the DS would be a new 'pillar' and not a successor to the GBA, but it was.

If this is true.... DOA for multiplatform games did they learn nothing with the fact they had two consoles in a row weaker than competition.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/rumour_nintendo_nx_wont_be_as_powerful_as_playstation_4

cooperb21:
If this is true.... DOA for multiplatform games did they learn nothing with the fact they had two consoles in a row weaker than competition.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/rumour_nintendo_nx_wont_be_as_powerful_as_playstation_4

Its.... what
Its not a console, its not going to compete with the ps4 or xbone, I already posted that rumour and we were discussing it.

It's speculated to be a hybrid of some kind, under what's known and what's been speculated it's plausible it won't be PS4 level or maybe a bit below X1 level. Wii U specs aren't that expensive it's just that the components that deliver them are custom made and propriety which bumps up the price it's not the tablet that makes the console expensive. On the surface a console that's not PS4 level or even X1 level will have people questioning the decision how ever if you look at the speculation and what's been said it begins to come together.

On the console side of things it'll seem like a small leap in power even if it's just under X1 power especially as NX will be a 9th gen platform but if it's indeed a fusion like platform like speculated then that leap in power would actually be a massive one for the portable side of things which is the more successful and consistent side for Nintendo. What this would mean is that every portable game would be in HD and a console game as well so Pokemon, MH, the Mario & Luigi RPGs etc...

Its been said the Wii U is the base template for NX and that fits perfectly for such a platform, my guess is that possibly the NX will be compatible with the Wii U's software and peripherals, NX will replace a platform come launch much like DS replaced the GB series things are just being worded in a way to not impact Wii U and 3DS sales in any manner given how far away launch of the NX may be.

You dont make proprietary chips if they are going to be more expensive then off the shelf chips, like ever. That would be a huge EE 101 no no.

Matthew79:

Nyxus:
That quote doesn't say it isn't a console, does it? What else is it?

Hard to say, an expansion on the wii U(that would be stupid) a phone, I dont know, what we do know is with the way since day one nintendo has said it wont take market from the 3ds and wiiU and have gone way out of their way to not call it a console, its not a console.

Considering the wiiU is more powerful then the ps3 and 360, to think their next console would be weaker then the ps4 is an insane concept to wrap my head around.

It is definitely a console. home or handheld or maybe both.

shareholder:
As a game fan, I am particularly concerned about how the new hardware NX will differ from Wii U and if Wii U games will continue to be released after its launch. Please comment on what will happen.

Iwata:
As I mentioned earlier, I cannot speak about the details of NX today. If I mention every detail of what we are newly thinking, it could be persuasive but it could also give other companies the opportunity to come up with counterplans or implement the ideas that they find interesting.

exactly what they said with the wii. they claim to be in direct competition with other hardware companies but whether it is Sony and MS isn't stated.

Iwata:
Regarding your concern about what will happen to Wii U or what will happen to Nintendo 3DS, NX is a new platform, so the installed base will have to be built up from zero. When NX is launched, there already will be a certain volume of Nintendo 3DS and Wii U hardware widely existing in the market, so from a software business perspective, it would be highly inefficient to stop releasing titles for Nintendo 3DS or Wii U right after the launch of NX. Therefore, while we are preparing NX for the future, we are discussing within our internal development teams as well as with the second-party developers we co-develop software with and also with third-party software publishers about how to continue creating software for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS. So, I believe that your point of concern should not happen immediately. As for Wii U, we will continue to make efforts, as it is a priority within the company to think about how we can satisfy the consumers who purchased this system to the maximum extent possible.

so definitely not a Wii U add on. and from the sounds of it the Wii U and 3ds will be phased out but not immediately, they claim to keep supporting them while NX is new. notice where Iwata says "your point of concern should not happen immediately" meaning it WILL happen eventually. if NX wasn't meant to replace Wii U at all then Iwata could have said "your concern doesn't apply to NX". and the shareholder never mentioned 3ds, Iwata brought it up which could mean he sees NX as a successor for both Wii U and 3ds and didn't catch that the shareholder thought of it as only a Wii U successor

Memo:
It's speculated to be a hybrid of some kind, under what's known and what's been speculated it's plausible it won't be PS4 level or maybe a bit below X1 level. Wii U specs aren't that expensive it's just that the components that deliver them are custom made and propriety which bumps up the price it's not the tablet that makes the console expensive. On the surface a console that's not PS4 level or even X1 level will have people questioning the decision how ever if you look at the speculation and what's been said it begins to come together.

On the console side of things it'll seem like a small leap in power even if it's just under X1 power especially as NX will be a 9th gen platform but if it's indeed a fusion like platform like speculated then that leap in power would actually be a massive one for the portable side of things which is the more successful and consistent side for Nintendo. What this would mean is that every portable game would be in HD and a console game as well so Pokemon, MH, the Mario & Luigi RPGs etc...

Its been said the Wii U is the base template for NX and that fits perfectly for such a platform, my guess is that possibly the NX will be compatible with the Wii U's software and peripherals, NX will replace a platform come launch much like DS replaced the GB series things are just being worded in a way to not impact Wii U and 3DS sales in any manner given how far away launch of the NX may be.

That would be amazing, not to mention save people on hand cramps (while I love RPGs playing them on 3DS or Vita hurt after an hour or so for me)

Although I also assume the console will be backwards compatible with both Wii U and 3DS (should it be a fusion console) in some way, thus giving us access to Wii U games on the go, and 3DS games at home.

Matthew79:
You dont make proprietary chips if they are going to be more expensive then off the shelf chips, like ever. That would be a huge EE 101 no no.

The GPU is the Wii U is propriety that functions like a GPGPU, even PCs don't have anything like it and the was a list of component costs and it was the most expensive component in the console by a big margin, it actually would have been cheaper to use an off the shelf part with similar specs as it may actually cost them as much as a more powerful GPU of the same cost, it does the job they want it to but still a more powerful GPU would have still done fine even if not as efficient and power conserving.

DMCM

Yeah I think it's a given it'll have BC.