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Yes, thats what I said. Not as much as they once had. A loss of a billion is quite a lot, it may surprise you to know. The problem is Nintendo is not willing to risk that money, instead of taking a risk to get back in the game, they seem to be happier slowly bleeding to death. | |
Majority of Nintendo's games are japanese games you muppet, plus they bring Fatal Frame 5 and Genei Ibun Roku, also Yokai Watch, if you know about any of these games, which I doubt. | |
They are not slowly bleeding to death. They have some of the strongest IPs in the industry. Mario Kart 8 has sold over 5 million copies on a console that has sold a little over 10 million. And several other games have sold over 3 million. Then theres the DLC for some of those games. People are lining up around the block for new Amiibos. The 3DS is still going strong. This doom shit has been going on for like 15 years now. Just relax FFS... | |
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Another try to get the thread back on course Nintendo's new patent was published today, I think this could be the NX.
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A screen controller looks set to return as Sharp and Nintendo just penned a new deal over something recently, this patent also indicates some kind of solid state format over discs. | |
Maybe something like a SSD type cartridge ? | |
Kinda sounds like it wont have physical games... | |
If that's true and it is digital only, RIP Nintendo. | |
The full patent shows it won't be digital only and uses some kind of SD Card like format. | |
Well it says "memory"... | |
[0028] The card slot 19 of the game apparatus 1 may receive or discharge the memory card 7 such as an SD memory card. The card slot 19 can read or write data from/to the attached memory card 7. In the present example embodiment, the game apparatus 1 is able to read out the first basic program 24 or the second basic program stored in the memory card 7 through the card slot 19, and to store the read-out program in the first memory 11 or the internal HDD 13. This can realize, for example, version upgrade of the first basic program 24 and the second basic program 25. It is to be noted that the version upgrade of a program may be realized by downloading a program from the server apparatus 9 through the communication unit 15. | |
That still sounds like its just a SD card slot... | |
Only a digital only console doesn't need one, what data on the SD card would need to be run through the RAM or installed on the HDD like described other then a game, it even says the program can be updated through the net which rules out save files and such even more so that the patent confirms save files are stored on the HDD. Keep in mind that this is a patent, Nintendo wouldn't need to patent SD cards as they're not new so don't require one. Edit: Reading more of the patent the may be a model with a disc drive, possible that the are various SKUs. | |
It still doesn't mean it will be for games... Could be for several things. | |
Like what exactly, it's most likely games because the patent indicates an SKU with out a HDD so how would that version operate with out a format, it essentially confirms the will be physical releases. | |
So far.. it looks like an 0815 device. Nothing outstanding so far. Waiting for further informations. | |
I don't think it's the hardware feature that will be the selling point but more this IOS style platform they're developing, the was mention in the patent of games scaling across different configurations so I think a portable and home version are launching together and will share a library. | |
Why would a console use cards? Unless its a console/handheld hybrid, I don't see it. | |
Because solid state formats are faster then optical and you can get 64GB for dead cheap now days as well not to mention you remove moving parts and components from the platform reducing the break down risk. It also means retail games can be played between both home and portable easier. | |
You are right. SSD's really dropped in price and increased in speed and lifetime. | |
Cheaper than a BR disc? | |
Around the same price, maybe the difference of around a dollar or so. | |
So if third parties wants to release a game on the NX, they will have to pay 1 dollar more per game than on the PS4 and XB1? Combine that with the fear they already have of releasing games on Nintendo consoles and its not looking good. They should go all digital instead then. | |
Usual scare mongering argument people throw around, Nintendo can just charge a dollar less on their licensing so third parties don't have any extra cost, they'd also have extra space as BR is 50GB while solid state would be 64GB. It's likely that cost won't be passed on to third parties regardless. | |
Its a valid argument. That's also if we say that its only 1 dollar more. A custom 64GB SD card has to be more expensive to produce than a common BR disc. | |
A dollar is a rounded up estimate if they use the higher end tech the actual general cost is something like a 30 or so cent difference it's a minimal cost that won't even be passed on tbh, also no a custom 64GB SD card is cheap to produce especially one that is read only which games would be on the difference is a 10 or 20 cents to produce. The tech is ultra cheap now days you must still be thinking of the 90s. | |
No, Im thinking of prices right now. What is more expensive to buy: A 64GB SD card or a blank BR disc? | |
They're the same price essentially (30 or so cents difference) for custom use on hardware like consoles in the next few years the Solid state at that space will be cheaper. | |
Obviously a BR Disc is way cheaper in comparision. But I doubt Nintendo would use 64 GB SD cards for a game which only uses up to 4 GB. It will depend on the game size of course. | |
Smaller games will make a killing as once you get around 10GB and lower solid state begins to cost less then peanuts, most games in the 8th gen are coming in at about 30 or so GB. BR discs aren't even that much cheaper now days for custom use, we're not talking about the consumer products btw, optical format has reached this problem were its advantage are either gone or been reduced to irrelevancy. Nintendo will probably use their own customized solid state which would make them cheaper much like they did with BR. | |
I can't say anything to that, because I don't know custom prices. | |
Consumer products are more general use hence you can write to them and all, a custom developed version for a product does away with certain costs by removing some of the general purpose features and won't require certain encryption, companies also don't pay consumer prices and never have. Check the link for SD card costs, some of these are dirt cheap highlighting the low manufacturing costs, the 100GB in one the ones shown is about $1.20. Edit: A bulk order of 1000 BR discs comes in at 2330 dollars for the 25GB discs, basically $2.30 for a disc due to licenses and all, customs aren't subject to licenses which is another reduction in cost. | |
What console games only uses 4GB? Especially the big third party releases? | |
Many of Nintendo's games have been below 6GB. | |
Well we already know Nintendo will support it...at least for a few years. | |
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